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bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation |
Date: |
Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:16:58 +0300 |
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 07:06:47 -0500
> Cc: rms@gnu.org, marmot-te@riseup.net, 46236@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > That depend on what we say. We don't have to mention Debian or their
> > repository explicitly -- which would also be better because other
> > distros could have a similar problem.
>
> I have never seen or heard of any other distribution ripping out the
> manual and distributing it separately from Emacs itself. Do you know of
> any examples?
It doesn't matter. I'm saying that we shouldn't name them as a matter
of principle, so as to avoid the few pitfalls you've mentioned, like
talking about non-free repositories.
> When I say `C-h r' without `emacs-common-non-dfsg' installed on my
> Debian machine, I get "Info file emacs does not exist".
We could, for example, say something like
Info manual for Emacs was not found; consider installing it.
which would be more explicit and clear, I think.
> Perhaps we could just find where that message comes from
It comes from Info-find-file.
> IOW, I think this would be easy to do technically, but it would need us
> to recommend the "non-free" repository.
Which is why I suggest not to name them.
> I'm therefore starting to think that this should be the responsibility
> of Debian. They should solve the problems that they have created for
> their users; such a warning should be added by *them*. Doesn't that
> make more sense?
We could indeed decide that it's not our problem. In fact, the
current situation is tantamount to doing just that.
- bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/20
- bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/21
- bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/21
- bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/21
- bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/21
- bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/21
- bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/21