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bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 02:23:54 +0300
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On 30.04.2021 00:46, Gregory Heytings wrote:

I know you like the current default on GNU/Linux, and it will remain available.  And what you like is not the default (you need to set visible-bell in your init file), so from that point of view nothing changes.

Fair enough. Still, it's more "proven" that yours, so to speak.

I don't mind putting it to the vote sometime, here or some other place.

Would you imagine such a behavior in Visual Studio, Sublime or Atom?

Briefly flashing some UI elements in a neutral fashion, without extra colors that may look out of place?


Using inverse-video also creates extra colors, unless your frame happens to display only black on white or white on black elements on the first and last line.  Moreover with my patch the colors are fully configurable, so you can adapt them to your theme.

It uses only the colors that are already there, though. Just in inverse. Maybe it looks worse on some alternative themes, I have really only tried it with the default one, and themes that are similar enough to it.

That's also why I asked whether somebody knows a corresponding UI element/animation in either of these editors we could, uh, "get inspired by".


AFAICS in other editors error signals are far less frequent (e.g. they do nothing when you try to move past the beginning or end of the buffer, or when you press a key binding with no corresponding action, or when you enter characters in a read-only file, ...), they only signal "critical" errors.  So I'm not sure it's possible to get inspired by what they do. What they use are typically popups; I attach two examples with Visual Studio and Atom, one when a non-readable file is opened, another when a non-writable file is saved.

Thanks for the screenshots.

I do not consider the 'ding' to be a warning or error notification, though: I far more often see it after pressing C-g myself, not when something unexpected happens. Otherwise a yellow notification, Atom-style, would be more pertinent.

But it would be interesting to try some icon-based animation in the echo area, like the red circle on VSCode's pic.





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