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bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot
From: |
Stefan Monnier |
Subject: |
bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot |
Date: |
Fri, 14 Apr 2023 11:52:40 -0400 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) |
> Maybe you can answer this: if a user is setting up Emacs 28 in company
> laptop machines regularly and does M-x package-install RET eglot RET there,
> or has a script with (package-install 'eglot), should or shouldn't this
> user, in your opinion, be allowed to do exactly the same, with the same
> predictable results (in this case getting the latest Eglot), when she starts
> doing the same in Emacs 29, which now contains Eglot as a built-in?
Good point. I think the answer is that we should distinguish "install"
from "upgrade" (and offer a way to do both, of course).
And I think we do want to break backward compatibility here (arguably we
even can't not break compatibility), because the Emacs<29 semantics of
`package-install` is "broken", since it does "install&upgrade" for
non-builtin packages but not for builtin packages: either we keep that
semantics and compatibility is broken when packages move to/from
builtin, or we change that semantics and compatibility is broken by the
change in semantics :-)
Stefan
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- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot,
Stefan Monnier <=
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- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Stefan Monnier, 2023/04/14
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/04/14
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/14
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/04/14
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, João Távora, 2023/04/14
- bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/04/14