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bug#62975: 29.0.90; Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in E


From: M. Ian Graham
Subject: bug#62975: 29.0.90; Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in Emacs 29
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:06:17 +0000

> Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
> in performance relative to Emacs 28?

I've observed the same general trend at the same general time but had trouble 
getting a clear handle on the difference.

Vague personal observations: I've noticed slowdown on macos (x86) but not linux 
in recent months, but in addition to moving emacs versions from v28 to master 
to v29 I've also changed installation methods from homebrew to nix+home-manager 
so that's a massive confounder.

Large loads of things like my org config, elfeed or magit seem sluggish now 
(often multiple seconds) where they were snappy before (sub-second), and my 
impression has been that either forking or I/O is much slower but I haven't 
done much narrowing. I'm unsure at present whether my own observations are due 
to emacs versions or nix/build/installation differences.

On magit specifically, I've followed the magit manual's advice re: the magit 
executable affecting perf 
(https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html) but not seen significant 
changes there.

I just attempted to reproduce some difference via emacs -Q and a simple recipe, 
but haven't easily been able to see a signal. Below are my results for v28 vs 
v29, both installed via nix. I'm also slowly trying other installation methods 
with the same recipe to see if anything jumps out.

So far, v28 feels plenty slow too.

John: Any advice on recipe or setting changes that might get me closer to your 
results, or should I be seeing something as is? 

Cheers,
Ian


--- Timing summary ---

Emacs 28: Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.880s)
Emacs 29: Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.910s)

--- Recipe for emacs -Q ---

(require 'magit)
(message (emacs-version))
(magit-toggle-verbose-refresh)
(magit-status "~/git/emacs") ;; clean savannah master
(switch-to-buffer "*Messages*")

--- Nix setup ---

# using emacs-overlay to preinstall all packages
pkgs.emacsWithPackagesFromUsePackage {
  config = "";
  package = pkgs.emacs; # v28
  # package = pkgs.emacsUnstable; # v29
  alwaysEnsure = true;
  extraEmacsPackages = epkgs: with epkgs; [
    magit
    # snip. 100 or so other packages in here
  ];
}

--- Begin Emacs 28 details ---

Installation: nixpkgs 22.11, using pkgs.emacs

GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0, NS appkit-2299.50 Version 
13.3 (Build 22E252))
Enabled verbose refreshing
Please type y, n, ! or i, or C-v/M-v to scroll: n [2 times]
Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...
  magit-insert-error-header                          0.000108 
  magit-insert-diff-filter-header                    4.8e-05 
  magit-insert-head-branch-header                    0.041727 !!
  magit-insert-upstream-branch-header                0.037297 !!
  magit-insert-push-branch-header                    0.000279 
  magit-insert-tags-header                           1.410307 !!
  magit-insert-status-headers                        1.510825 !!
  magit-insert-merge-log                             3.1e-05 
  magit-insert-rebase-sequence                       0.000988 
  magit-insert-am-sequence                           0.000245 
  magit-insert-sequencer-sequence                    7.6e-05 
  magit-insert-bisect-output                         0.000507 
  magit-insert-bisect-rest                           0.000223 
  magit-insert-bisect-log                            2.3e-05 
  magit-insert-untracked-files                       0.081601 !!
  magit-insert-unstaged-changes                      0.023426 !
  magit-insert-staged-changes                        0.039086 !!
  magit-insert-stashes                               0.018601 !
  magit-insert-unpushed-to-pushremote                0.000296 
  magit-insert-unpushed-to-upstream-or-recent        0.121099 !!
  magit-insert-unpulled-from-pushremote              0.000187 
  magit-insert-unpulled-from-upstream                0.023706 !
Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.880s)

-- magit-debug-git-executable --

magit-remote-git-executable: "git"
magit-git-executable: "/Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin/git" (2.38.4)
exec-path: ("/Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin" "/nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin" 
"/Users/ian/.bin" "/usr/local/bin" "/System/Cryptexes/App/usr/bin" "/usr/bin" 
"/bin" "/usr/sbin" "/sbin" "/Library/Apple/usr/bin" 
"/nix/store/yf6bx17rwyhr56x6q0alzvmm9jjbq06x-emacs-28.2/libexec/emacs/28.2/x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0")
  /Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin 
(/nix/store/1p9130djcdq91cj685kn8qpmg9kj05ap-home-manager-path/bin)
    /Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin/git (2.38.4)
  /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin 
(/nix/store/1l14si31p4aw7c1gwgjy0nq55k38j9nj-nix-2.13.2/bin)
  /Users/ian/.bin (t)
  /usr/local/bin (t)
  /System/Cryptexes/App/usr/bin (t)
  /usr/bin (t)
    /usr/bin/git (2.38.4)
  /bin (t)
  /usr/sbin (t)
  /sbin (t)
  /Library/Apple/usr/bin (nil)
  
/nix/store/yf6bx17rwyhr56x6q0alzvmm9jjbq06x-emacs-28.2/libexec/emacs/28.2/x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0
 (t)

-- report-emacs-bug --

In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0, NS appkit-2299.50 
Version 13.3 (Build 22E252))
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299
System Description:  macOS 13.2.1

Configured using:
 'configure
 --prefix=/nix/store/yf6bx17rwyhr56x6q0alzvmm9jjbq06x-emacs-28.2
 --disable-build-details --with-modules --with-ns
 --disable-ns-self-contained --with-native-compilation'

Configured features:
ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE
NS PDUMPER PNG RSVG THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $EMACSLOADPATH: 
/nix/store/4zv83fg4mphqwz3dy6cv9g6a56sas7b2-emacs-packages-deps/share/emacs/site-lisp:
  value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: 
/nix/store/4zv83fg4mphqwz3dy6cv9g6a56sas7b2-emacs-packages-deps/share/emacs/native-lisp::
  value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Messages

Minor modes in effect:
  global-git-commit-mode: t
  magit-auto-revert-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

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In GNU Emacs 29.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.3.0, NS
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Repository revision: emacs-29.0.90
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Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299
System Description:  macOS 13.2.1

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------- Original Message -------
On Friday, April 21st, 2023 at 03:58, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:


> 
> 
> > From: "John Wiegley" johnw@gnu.org
> 
> > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:41:24 -0700
> > 
> > I noticed after upgrading to 29.0.90 that Emacs felt very sluggish. I was 
> > able
> > to track this down to slow forking behavior, such as what happened in Emacs 
> > 26
> > days. As an example, I started with emacs -Q and then loaded magit and used 
> > it
> > to check for changes in one of my local repositories. These are the timings
> > for just hitting 'g':
> > 
> > 28.2 Refreshing magit...done (0.298s, cached 11/25 (44%))
> > 28.2-Macport Refreshing magit...done (0.140s, cached 6/16 (38%))
> > 29.0.90 Refreshing magit...done (1.495s, cached 11/25 (44%))
> > 
> > As you can see, with identical configuration (-Q) and the same Git project,
> > refreshing takes 7 times longer with Emacs 29 than it did with Emacs 28.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
> in performance relative to Emacs 28?
>





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