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bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' s


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade'
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:54:58 +0300
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On 24/04/2023 20:28, Adam Porter wrote:
On 4/24/23 07:02, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

Me, I have only one potential issue: since "update" just means "delete
the installed version, then install another version", it could be
easily made to downgrade, not just to upgrade.  So if we ever would
like to allow downgrading, the new names will get in the way.  But if
this is not an issue we should be bothered about, it's fine by me.

IMHO, a command to downgrade ought to be a separate command with a different name--not only to reduce confusion, but because downgrading packages is an operation that is more likely to require manual user intervention, such as recompiling other packages that depend on the downgraded package (e.g. if struct or macro definitions change, or symbols disappear).

That might also be the case when upgrading a package that some others depend on (newer version could also have macros deleted or renamed).

Either way, though, we could make it a separate command.

Or even augment the current one: (package-upgrade 'name "some-older-version") has a similar feel to (forward-char -1), not exactly unfamiliar to us.

Would "update" be a more proper term to cover both upgrading and downgrading? I'm not sure about that. Aside from "downgrade", I would probably say "revert" or "install an older version". E.g. when using apt-get, the relevant subcommand would be "install".

It's easy enough to cause that problem when upgrading, and much more likely when downgrading, to the extent that it's arguable that a command to downgrade shouldn't exist, because users who want to downgrade a package should be prepared to deal with the potential fallout.

Or that. We don't keep older versions around in ELPA anyway, so for now the question is moot.





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