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Re: ls default time style
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Bruno Haible |
Subject: |
Re: ls default time style |
Date: |
Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:42:01 +0100 (CET) |
Markus Kuhn writes:
> Admittedly, the "12-03" does not even conform strictly to ISO 8601:2000,
Maybe this can convince Paul Eggert, but it is a minor point.
The important point is that there are four commonly ways to present
a date without year in Germany:
3. Dezember
3. Dez.
3. Dez
3.12.
and "12-03" is not one of them.
Which one among them to choose, is a discussion we can have on the
German localization mailing list, which is responsible for the
fileutils/de.po file. What I'm asking for is that this info be taken
into account by default and not overridden by a US centric notation.
> Could the date field to occupy 14 characters? In that case, I would
> advocate the format "YY-MM-DD HH:MM" to be used everywhere.
You have been promoting ISO 8601 with 4-digit year numbers, and now
you advocate the contrary? Strange.
> Internationalization merely means to enable programs to be useful in
> many countries. Localization is one way of achieving that, namely to
> modify the bahaviour of programs to follow historically grown national
> conventions. Standardization is an alternative, namely to find
> conventions that are acceptable in many if not all countries. I advocate
> the school of thought that standardization is in any respect far
> superiour to localization.
Do you mean, standardize the way people can localize their
applications, or standardize the applications to produce locale
independent output? The former I agree, the latter I disagree.
Bruno
- ls default time style, Bruno Haible, 2001/12/10
- Re: ls default time style, Paul Eggert, 2001/12/10
- Re: ls default time style, Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/10
- Re: ls default time style, Bruno Haible, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Hans-Bernhard Broeker, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style,
Bruno Haible <=
- Re: ls default time style, Miles Bader, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Bruno Haible, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Andreas Schwab, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Andreas Schwab, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Andreas Schwab, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Paul Eggert, 2001/12/11
- Re: ls default time style, Paul Eggert, 2001/12/11