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Re: Iconsistent ls sorting with and without `v'
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Thierry Vignaud |
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Re: Iconsistent ls sorting with and without `v' |
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Thu, 22 May 2003 11:47:52 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) |
Stepan Kasal <address@hidden> writes:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 07:25:24PM +0400, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> > > ls -v uses the strverscmp function.
> > That makes it rather useless for any codeset except trivial ASCII. Even
>
> > In any case, Mandrake sets default alias to ll='ls -lFv' ...
>
> > Would you consider to change ls behaiour? Else may I ask to change default
> > aliases as used in Mandrake? It is rather confusing currently.
>
> Sure it is. In any case I'd say that the distro makers should try to
> avoid surprises as much as possible. They should choose between not using
> `-v' and setting `LC_ALL=C'. For example:
> la='LC_ALL=C ls -laFv'
> would be reasonable. (Another reason could be that a locale could mix
> hidden files with files whose names start by a letter.)
>
> But it all depends on taste. I, for myself, would find the `-x' also
> rather annoying.
>
> I think you should ask the authors of your distribution to adapt better
> to axioms which are currently in effect.
>
> In parallel, you can ask for change of the behaviour of ls.
> I've tried to verify that your wish doesn't contradict POSIX.
> I'm not the one who will decide though.
> (And I don't have any opinion: LC_ALL=C rulez!)
pablo, do you think we should alter our default aliases ?
- Re: [Cooker] strange problem with "hotplug" package, Andrey Borzenkov, 2003/05/06
- Re: [Cooker] strange problem with "hotplug" package, Stepan Kasal, 2003/05/06
- Re: [Cooker] strange problem with "hotplug" package, Jim Meyering, 2003/05/06
- Iconsistent ls sorting with and without `v', Andrey Borzenkov, 2003/05/09
- Re: Iconsistent ls sorting with and without `v', Jim Meyering, 2003/05/10
- Re: Iconsistent ls sorting with and without `v', Andrey Borzenkov, 2003/05/10
- Re: Iconsistent ls sorting with and without `v', Stepan Kasal, 2003/05/11
- Re: Iconsistent ls sorting with and without `v',
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