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Re: Firefox themes as Art files

From: al3xu5 / dotcommon
Subject: Re: Firefox themes as Art files
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:46:34 +0200

Il giorno domenica 19/07/2009 13:18:46 CEST
Sam Geeraerts <address@hidden> ha scritto:

> > Free software in a non-free world means nothing. 
> > 
> > Free software is just a part of a copylefted world.
> > 
> > Freedom not only means free software. Freedom involves knowledge,
> > science, culture, arts... all intellectual and creative works
> > should be free and benefif form all same four freedoms of free
> > software.
> The four freedoms apply specifically to functional software. You
> can't just carry them over to other kinds of works ...

what I was trying to say is that people who care about free software
should care of freedom in general

> ... as you've shown here. But I agree that free licenses for artwork
> are a good thing.

good! so why do not use them?

> > Finally, css can not be consider art. 
> > First of all, ccs are essentialy CODE, no matter what it does or
> > what it is for.
> Wether or not it's human readable code is irrelevant. SVG is also
> code, it describes an image and is most certainly artwork.
> > More, css defines the "artistic" layout? Well, also the <strong> or
> > <h1> tag or a C++ class to set background colors using C++ do
> > exactly the same: so also HTML and C++ code could be considered art
> > and no matter if it is non-free?
> The HTML elements "strong" and "h1" describe the semantic structure
> of data (like most non-deprecated elements in modern HTML). Browsers 
> generally render them as bold by default, but that is not required
> and can be changed with CSS. 

right but the css alone do nothing and when included in the html it
is as a piece of the html code...

> A C++ class to set background colors
> would be like a CSS interpreter: the color values would in general be
> separated from the code that sets them. 

so both css and c++ class have a *functional* role (not aesthetic)
displayng the external defined colour...

> Images can be described in
> C/C++ (I believe GIMP has such an export format) and that would be
> artwork. But it doesn't mean that all code that is in some way
> involved with graphics or visual style is artwork.

so how can you decide when the css code is just artwork or not?

> CSS describes the visual style of structured data. It is not sequence
> of detailed instructions and so should not be lumped together with
> actual computer programs.

css can do more than defining the visual layout...

can handle floating menus, can mamage printing, can manage what should
be displayed and what not usualli according with the media... it is
hard to me thinking css is just art...

but also if it is... why users should not be free to copy, modify and
redistribute images and css of a theme made to work in
functionally conjunction with a free browser???


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