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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] GNU LibreJS won't be removed from GNU IceCat

From: bill-auger
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] GNU LibreJS won't be removed from GNU IceCat
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 05:19:32 -0500
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ok thats sorta what i thought you meant - i couldnt have said it more
verbosely myself - i do quite agree that the web is a hopeless cause for
FOSS - as you say, the only real solution is stop running foreign
scripts completely - though allowing white-listed client-side JS
libraries is an interesting idea

i will add this though, as you mention the average user's complacency -
such as:

On 02/22/2018 03:22 AM, Ivan Zaigralin wrote:
> average users are willing to run software from any source
> They don't even understand the basic difference between
> downloading data versus executing an arbitrary algorithm

i think even that statement is over-stating the user's understanding -
the average user does not even consider the web to be software - it is
nothing more significant than a magazine or TV show - most people do not
care what software is running in their television or even know that
their television is running software - take next into account that the
casual PC user is migrating to smart-phones which, just as a television
or a home-bot appliance, the owner does not see as a computer -
websites, "apps", tweeting, and of course shopping, those are all just
"stuff that my phone does" when i push the pretty buttons - just as the
TV goes on when i press the red button on the remote - as long as that
works why should the user care about it's software - they are not
computing with that device; they are merely entertaining themselves with it

to put this into context: the underlying impetus of the 4 freedoms is
that user should control their own computing - frankly, i dont consider
tweeting and shopping to be "computing" in any meaningful sense; and
understandably so, neither does the casual user - aside from privacy
concerns, it is an increasingly less convincing argument to make to the
casual user that software freedom is something they should be concerned

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