Re: A user point of view

[Thierry Laronde]

On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 05:29:31AM +0900, OKUJI Yoshinori wrote:
> From: Thierry Laronde <address@hidden>
> Subject: A user point of view
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:51:04 +0200
> 
> > But I think it could be useful (in some cases) to have the ability to
> > go back to the default keymap (no translation). And because the keyboard
> > can be a real mess if you need the command, the command must be easy to
> > obtain : i have thought about `setkey default' but if you are not able
> > to type a `a' ... but there remains the history list; if there is a mess,
> > that's because you used the command ; so the command is in the history ; 
> > so the command without options : `setkey' could perhaps return to the 
> > default (no mapping).
> 
>   Interesting, but I don't think there is a really safe way, because:
> 
> * The history buffer is limited. So a command-line which contains
> "setkey" may be erased, before you notice that something is wrong.
> 
> * If you removed DEL and BS (this is possible), what can you do?

I agree that there is no safe way. But the panacea doesn't exist : it
would be just an opportunity, if the user has not obstinately screwed
the system, to recover a usable keyboard. BTW, the french keyboard, when
you need to map ASCII codes, is strange. Are there stranger keyboards
where the DEL and BS are not at the "same place" as in the qwerty US,
needing to remap them ? And the options are long names, one can not type
`delete' or `backspace' by mistake.
> 
> > - other commands to be treated without the need to select a menu item
> >   (for example, even if the example is not that good, remapping the
> >   keyboard) ;
> 
>   I'm uncertain of what you mean.

Commands that will be run without needing to be put in an entry (like `default'
`fallback' etc...).
> 
> * Add commands to manipulate the menu from the command-line interface. !
> 
> This means that I'm planning to add commands like "menulist" and
> "menurun". These commands would be used like this:
> 
> grub> menulist
> 0: NetBSD
> 1: OpenBSD
> 2: GNU/Hurd
> 3: FreeDOS
> 
> grub> menulist 3
> root (hd0,2)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
> 
> grub> menurun 3
> [Booting FreeDOS]
> 
>   However, this isn't as easy to implement as this may seem. So I may
> not work on this.

Don't be mistaken : I know this is not easy. And I understand that this
is not of the higher priority, simply because you can already run these
entries... via the menu.

Regards,
-- 
Thierry LARONDE <address@hidden>
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