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bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed depre
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Ricardo Wurmus |
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bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism |
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Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:10:22 +0100 |
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zimoun <address@hidden> writes:
>> > Why do you say that "guix shell" does not reflect what the command is
>> > about?
>> > Because the command spawns a new shell with options (expanding it,
>> > isolating it, etc.)
>>
>> The command does not necessarily spawn a new shell; it spawns a command
>> in a well-defined environment, and that command might be a shell.
>
> What about "guix spawn"?
“spawn” is a very generic verb, much like “enter” (enter what?) or
“make”. “shell” has the awkward property of meaning different things
dependent on how you interpret it: “to shell” means to *remove* an outer
shell (like that of a nut) whereas “guix shell” as a noun would imply
*wrapping“ something in a shell. It sends mixed signals. We’d probably
want people to understand it as ‘spawn a command line shell’, but that’s
really not the primary purpose of ‘guix environment’.
Thinking about words some more I started to wonder: do we want verbs or
nouns? We have some sub-commands that could be interpreted either way:
archive
gc
hash
Others that are primarily understood as nouns:
container
environment
graph
package
processes
repl
size
system
time-machine
weather
And a majority that are primarily understood as verbs:
build
challenge
copy
deploy
describe
download
edit
import
install
lint
pack
publish
pull
refresh
remove
search
show
upgrade
If we were looking for verbs that express the idea of creating an
environment or to place a thing inside of an environment we could use
one of these:
to envelop (envelop what though? This seems to require two objects.)
to arrange (kinda misses the point)
to stage (in the theatric sense)
to frame (not in the criminal sense)
to contain (…the resulting process in a possibly leaky environment)
to join (…all these packages to form a new whole)
to group (…all these packages)
(As a bonus: ‘to environ’ exists, but it suffers from the same problem
as ‘to envelop’.)
Here are some nouns that might work:
scene
frame
context
union
All of them are shorter than “environment”! :)
What do you think?
--
Ricardo
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, (continued)
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2019/12/19
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, zimoun, 2019/12/20
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Ricardo Wurmus, 2019/12/20
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Gábor Boskovits, 2019/12/21
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Ludovic Courtès, 2019/12/21
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, EuAndreh, 2019/12/30
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Ludovic Courtès, 2019/12/30
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, zimoun, 2019/12/30
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Ludovic Courtès, 2019/12/30
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, zimoun, 2019/12/30
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism,
Ricardo Wurmus <=
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, zimoun, 2019/12/30
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Ludovic Courtès, 2019/12/31
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Ricardo Wurmus, 2019/12/31
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2019/12/20
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, zimoun, 2019/12/20
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Ricardo Wurmus, 2019/12/20
- bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism, Konrad Hinsen, 2019/12/21
- bug#38529: Deprecating ‘guix environment’?, Ludovic Courtès, 2019/12/19
- bug#38529: Deprecating ‘guix environment’?, zimoun, 2019/12/19
- bug#38529: Deprecating ‘guix environment’?, Konrad Hinsen, 2019/12/20