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Re: upgrade


From: Philip Charles
Subject: Re: upgrade
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:10:26 +1200
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On Sunday 16 July 2006 22:49, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 06:41:43PM +0530, address@hidden wrote:
> > I had just been a week at IIIT, Hyderabad - http://iiit.ac.in. The
> > faculty there has agreed to pool in research students and scholars
> > there to assist in the development of Hurd.
>
> That's very interesting to hear.  :-)
>
> But first we should clarify a few issues.  Are you aware that the
> current Hurd's implementation (and design) are currently not as
> actively pushed forward as they were is in the past?
>
> A number of people instead began to reconsider issues in the Hurd's
> design (see the l4-hurd mailing list's archives for example,
> <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/l4-hurd>).  This includes both
> the actual Hurd's design, as well as the underlying micro kernel.  A
> very early, incomplete draft of this ``new Hurd'''s design is available
> at <http://www.marcus-brinkmann.org/hurd-ng.pdf> and the beginning of
> documenting some issues at
> <http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hurd/NextHurd>.  Unfortunately its
> main pioneers, Marcus Brinkmann and Neal Walfield (and a number of
> other people, mostly on the l4-hurd mailing list), can't -- at the
> moment -- dedicate as much time to this project as it would need.  So,
> there is currently no possibility to directly contribute to this
> effort, as far as I can see.
>
> If you instead think it is feasible to invest time into the current
> Hurd on Mach implementation, there are tons of loose ends where work
> would be possible.
>
> > It has been over 20 years of development. I have undertaken to do a
> > qualitative study of the development during this period.
> > Q2) Where can I find the valid archives ?
>
> You mean like mailing list archives?  They're accessible from
> <http://savannah.gnu.org/mail/?group=hurd> and
> <http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/>.  Very old stuff, the archives
> of the hurd-folks mailing list which is documenting parts of the Hurd's
> genesis, are available at
> <http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/hurd/hurd-talk.tar.gz>.
>
> There is no written history, as far as I know.  Only bits here and
> there.

Would the people at IIIT, Hyderabad be interested in taking over the 
production of the CD and DVD iso images?  I plan to retire from this task 
within the next six months.

Phil.

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