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Re: Putting a random translator into the Hurd directly?

From: Michael Casadevall
Subject: Re: Putting a random translator into the Hurd directly?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:51:48 -0400

That makes sense, but why don't we still include a random module in the source itself so people who are working on one at least can work from a common starting point, but make it so it isn't compiled in by default. I mean, looking at the source, we have trivfs in the main source, and that useless to everyone expect developers

On Jun 12, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Michael Banck wrote:

On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 04:23:05PM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote:
I've recently started hacking on Hurd again, and I'm curious why a
random translator isn't included by default in the Hurd. Looking at
the wiki, there are at least two different translators; we should
have one of these included out of the box because without /dev/(u)
random, its impossible to have SSH and a bunch of other programs.

the GNU maintainers (well, Marcus mostly I think) have made it clear
that a good solution to entropy needs to be found for the Hurd, no
half-baked low-security solution will be acceptable (you could argue
that the current state is much worse, but this is intentional I think -
people should *immediately realize* that there is no cryptographically
secure /dev/random provided by the Hurd and act accordingly.  Having a
/dev/random device would make them think everything is fine)

On the other hand, I think the Debian GNU/Hurd would benefit from a
halfway secure solution and it would be a good test-bed for inclusion

So if you have something working, the debian-hurd@lists.debian.org
mailing list would be very interested.


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