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Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check

From: olafBuddenhagen
Subject: Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:10:31 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)


On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:46:14PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb olafBuddenhagen@gmx.net:

> > I mentioned the desktop thing as one possible showcase. The problem
> > here is that it is a task for many years... Would be nice to have
> > some hurdish applications for showing around, in a closer timeframe.
> And I think we're close to a general issue here: 
> We need stuff which gets people to say "hey that's cool!"
> And it must be readily available. 

Yeah, that's what I have been trying to say, talking about use cases

> One main focus in this example is: No command line parameters but the
> ones we really need. No "-a", if the example is also cool without it.
> No "--console" if it works otherwise. 
> Especially no "qemu --cd livecd --hda hurd.img ..." - that one is
> great for specialists, but the goal here is not to teach people better
> usage of qemu, but to show them that the Hurd is cool, and only that. 

Well, I wouldn't really consider that an issue. qemu is totally
unrelated to what we actually trying to show, and I don't think it's a
problem if it needs a complicated command line, as long as it is
presented in a form that can be directly copied, without understanding
that part -- without needing to look up qemu usage first.

In my experience users are actually quite used to copying arcane command
lines that they do not fully understand...

> PS: If you think that I say "cool" a bit too often, then just pass me
> an alternative word ;-) 

cold? chilly? freezing? ;-)


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