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Re: News 2009-08-31, documentation, wiki

From: olafBuddenhagen
Subject: Re: News 2009-08-31, documentation, wiki
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:53:35 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05)


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:16:29AM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 10:08:23AM +0300, Sergiu Ivanov wrote:

> > Anyway, I hope the solution I suggested above (adding the
> > documentation to my hurd-web page) should be good.
> There's no need to (more or less) hide the information on your user
> page.

Let me remind you that it was you who turned the individual GSoC project
pages into user pages... :-)

> > It has just occurred to me that a fair part of my thinking about
> > this problem is occupied by taking care of the history being nice.
> > I wonder whether it's normal :-(
> In my opinion (and Olaf will probably disagree), you should really
> reduce thinking about this too much.  Rather get some work done.
> Having a polished history of flawless changesets is indeed nice (and
> appealing), but it is absolutely not essential for progress.  We
> should rather be concentrating on moving *forward* than trying to
> preconceive what our successors might perhaps be thinking about the
> way we have done our changes.

As I already said in another mail, the main reason why I ask for
"perfect" patches is for practice... Not every patch needs to be
perfect; but creating good patches is an important skill in general.

(Bisectability is a pretty important requirement for any coding project,
and good patch practices mostly boil down to bisectability...)

However, as I also already said, this vehemently does *not* apply to the
wiki -- that's not the right place for promoting good commit practices

> > Seeing how advertently you propagate Mercurial in every applicable
> > task
> Yes, a tiny plea: please don't do that all the time on bug-hurd,
> rather take these off-topic emails off-list.  A bit of off-topicness
> is always needed and tolerable, but you have to know when to stop.
> Else, we might think about setting up a hurd-chatter mailing list?

I must admit that totally off-topic discussions do not bother me too
much: on a mailing list (unlike on IRC), it's really easy to completely
ignore such a thread. On some lists I do that all the time.

What bothers me more are discussions that are more or less on topic, and
yet totally unproductive -- like the circular discussion about opaque
memory etc. that took place here some months ago. Unlike with totally
off-topic one, there is actually a reason for the developers to continue
participating it such discussions; and thus they drain much more time
and energy than totally off-topic stuff...

But if you think we should introduce a stricter off-topic policy for
this list, I wouldn't really object either :-)


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