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Re: OT: automation


From: Arne Babenhauserheide
Subject: Re: OT: automation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:39:52 +0100
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Hi, 

Am Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 14:24:55 schrieb olafBuddenhagen@gmx.net:
> > alt-F2 -> gg:google search -> enter -> konqueror starts the search.
> 
> It's stupid to have such a feature *within* some program. Such stuff
> should be handled globally. See my recent rant:
> 
>    http://tri-ceps.blogspot.com/2009/06/one-shell-to-rule-them-all.html
> 
> (IMHO one of my best so far :-) )

Sounds like KDE + shell integration could be a first step for you... 

Functionality for Konqueror is delivered by IOSlaves and service menus which 
just integrate into the workflow - and KDE programs can directly use these, 
too. 

> session management): traditional applications create a totally useless
> grouping of activities. "Web browsing" is not an activity. It is part of
> various other activities. When I'm working on something, and then want
> to look something up on google or leo, I want to do this *from the shell
> I'm currently working in*; and not first go to some other application to
> launch the search...

> somehow (I guess that's also true for Konqueror) -- but I never bothered
> to learn how... It's just stupid that with the fat full-featured
> browsers, opening a new page from the shell is not just as easy as
> starting the browser in the default way.

You mean something like this? 

        kfmclient newTab "http://1w6.org";

or 

        kfmclient newTab gg:1w6

(if you have gg: as shortcut for "search in google", then this searches google 
for "1w6"). 

you could make this more convenient for shell users with the alias 

alias kon='kfmclient newTab'

Now you could just use "kon gg:1w6" to search for 1w6. 

> As for use of spaces and other shell characters in file names: given the
> choice between beauty, and being able to use the power of the shell, I
> definitely opt for the latter :-)

:-) 

At least my autocompletion automatically escapes spaces in filenames - which 
eases the pain quite a bit :) 

Best wishes, 
Arne

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