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Re: improved accidental algorithm (with images)


From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Subject: Re: improved accidental algorithm (with images)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:09:07 +0200
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Werner LEMBERG <address@hidden> writes:

> As soon as I know how to shift accidentals, I will provide images.
> Here my algorithm again, this time with images.

Thanks.  Images help a lot to get started.

> I forgot to put Wanske's book into my travelling baggage -- can
> someone please test my algorithm against her collected devils?

I'm sorry not to have responder earlier; I was certain that Han-Wen
had our copy of Wanske; and until now I didn't know anything about
accidental (re)ordering rules.  This afternoon, I took a brief look at
Wanske.  She lists some rules of which the most important seem to be:

   * highest-y accidental first, then lowest, then next highest etc.
   
   * x-position of accidentals take after x-position of noteheads in
     chords

   * accidentals for octaves always have same x-position (unless maybe
     this eats too much x-space in chords with accidentals on
     seconds).  See Fig 2.

   * accidentals on seconds are kerned extra tightly to the note heads

but it looks like you knew that.

Then, there's a kerning table for type of accidental and note
intervals in chord.  Most important is, not to use more space than
necessary.
   
As I'll be going on vacation tomorrow, I haven't analyzed your
algorithm yet, but I'll take a good look at it when I'm back.

Looking at the pictures, your algorithm solves a number of bugs, and
even get things almost right in hairy cases.

However, I don't understand why in your chord3.png, you put the flat
closer to the chord than the c's natural sign.  See Fig 1.

Greetings,
Jan.

Attachment: m-page1.png
Description: fig 1 (chord3 redo)

Attachment: n-page1.png
Description: fig 2



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Jan Nieuwenhuizen <address@hidden> | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
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