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Re: Issue 1290 in lilypond: Skyline compaction is going overboard someti

From: Keith E OHara
Subject: Re: Issue 1290 in lilypond: Skyline compaction is going overboard sometimes
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 05:13:35 -0700
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:58:41 -0700, <address@hidden> wrote:

I am afraid that you are trying to evaluate my proposal by tweaking
existing knobs.  The existing knobs are no use for a reasonable
automatic resolution of the problem.

Yep, that is what I concluded; but I was not evaluating any proposal, just 
trying to mitigate what is listed as a critical issue.  When knob-tweakers are 
available, tweaking knobs can be an effective way to discover what issues the 
machine we have can already overcome.

This might be a "going to Abilene" situation, where each person would recommend 
this be a low-urgency project, but each erroneously assumes that it is high-urgency 
somebody else.   Has anybody seen interleaving in real music? (I have not in Lilypond, 
but have seen it in published piano music.)

I often struggle to coax Lilypond to put things closer together, whereas moving 
them apart is easy (padding, minimum-Y-extent, etc.) and well-documented 
because there are cases where Lilypond doesn't yet understand that more space 
is needed for us humans, or where Lilypond goofs and allows collisions.

So I think Lilypond is perfectly useful despite issue 1290.   Was the priority 
setting due to a misunderstanding?


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