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Re: Possible bug, or I am doing something wrong?


From: Colin Hall
Subject: Re: Possible bug, or I am doing something wrong?
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:55:28 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14)

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:26:52AM +0000, Sami Amiris wrote:
> Mark Mathias <d8valily <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > 
> > Colin,
> > I just read through this, and I think it is over my head as far as creating
> > issues as suggested by David. I'll pass on this one hoping someone more
> > competent untangles the threads to create issues as needed.
> > Mark
> 
> Normally I would just shut my mouth, as your answer itself is probably over 
> my 
> head (I don't even know what are the "issues as suggested by David", for 
> example.) I can understand however that me, being a novice, has tangled the 
> threads to such an extent that one cannot see the light. So, the least - and, 
> unfortunately, most - I can do is to tell you my issue, and its solution.
> 
> My issue is to write in two voices (in the traditional sense) for the piano, 
> one 
> for Right hand, one for left hand. These voices span the whole piano, so one 
> nice way to do it is to change the staves at mid C, something that is 
> beautifully given to us by \autochange. On top of this, I am writting a scale 
> and arpeggio exercises collection, so I would have to do it many, many times 
> over. That is why I would like to avoid doing it by hand, and as I said, 
> thank 
> God for autochange. 
> 
> Now, I couldn't find a combination of commands to actually do it. The 
> ascending 
> scales worked like a charm, but the descending ones failed. Actually, if the 
> R.H. was anywhere above \relative C'', things failed miserably. I tried to 
> follow the manual closely, by the piano examples with autochange didn't help 
> me.
> 
> After reading through many valuable suggestions, I reached a solution that 
> works 
> fine, and it is here:
> 
> http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Possible-multiple-bugs%2C-any-way-around--
> p33982446.html
> 

Hi Sami,

I've had a look at all the posts and I don't think there's all that
much to be said. I think all the trouble arose because you were trying
to do something quite tricky, even for an experienced user.

The documentation for autochange [1] looks fine to me but it only
deals with the simple case where there is only once voice and it is
the one created automatically.

I've taken your original post and re-written it to be suitable for
submission as a snippet, see attached.

I wasn't able to reproduce the warning due to the initial \bar
command, though I do reproduce David Kastrup's recent bug report which
I believe arose from your original post.

So, in summary, I don't find a bug here but there are some
shortcomings in the docs. I'll create a doc suggestion to address
that.

Cheers,
Colin.

[1] 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-keyboards#changing-staff-automatically

Cheers,
Colin.

-- 

Colin Hall

Attachment: autochangeTwoVoicesSnippet.ly
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