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Re: bookparts with paper blocks

From: Federico Bruni
Subject: Re: bookparts with paper blocks
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 22:50:49 +0200

Hi Francisco

sorry for the late reply
I want to add it to the tracker but I'd like to have some more information

2013/5/1 Francisco Vila <address@hidden>

> 2013/5/1 Federico Bruni <address@hidden>:
> > 2013/4/30 Francisco Vila <address@hidden>
> >>
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> In "File structure" we are saying that bookparts can help on having
> >> different paper settings for each part, but in fact this conflicts
> >> with the statement we state (in the same page) that paper settings act
> >> on the whole book.
> >>
> >> This is confusing, do you agree?
> >>
> >
> > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/file-structure
> >
> > I don't think it's really confusing, but it may be better explained with
> > examples.
> > I think that we may add a paper block and an explanation in the last
> snippet
> > of this page:
> >
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/multiple-scores-in-a-book
> >
> > BTW, Trevor recently pushed this:
> > https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2902
> >
> > see NR 4.1.1:
> >
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/the-_005cpaper-block
> What I read all around is that settings are merged. The interesting
> bit is a hierarchical prevalence. But a simple experiment which I'm
> sure many users have tried, is to set a variable in a paper block in a
> bookpart, and see how this variable affects the whole book. Any
> example from us should show that you can not expect this setting
> affects only to that bookpart unless you have a setting in a higher
> hierarchy that acts as a default for the rest of the book.
I don't understand the last sentence. Do you have an example?
In the simple example attached, the hierarchical prevalence works fine.

> >> I've also seen many unanswered questions in the list archives about
> >> using bookparts to join scores. IMO it is confusing that we don't
> >> offer a template or something warning that you can not simply include
> >> a working score in a bookpart, and instead you have to handle a
> >> bookpart as if it were a score block.
> >
> >
> > I can't understand your last sentence.
> Handle a bookpart as if it were a score block, in the sense of you can
> not put assignments on it. What one expects is to have a working file
> with both variable assignments and a \score{}, and simply put it
> inside of a bookpart{}, which can not be done just as you can not put
> assignments into the \score{}. I think it is common that users want to
> join scores in a book and first thing they try involves leaving their
> original files untouched. This is not possible: you have to split
> every file in two, and include them in different places of the master
> file, namely assignments outside of the bookpart and scores inside of.
minimal example please
these things are tricky...

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