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Re: articulate.ly messes up drum rolls with articulations and slurs

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: articulate.ly messes up drum rolls with articulations and slurs
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 11:44:49 +0200
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Hans Åberg <haberg-1@telia.com> writes:

>> On 1 Jul 2021, at 23:36, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Separate rolls are not separated, articulations are executed on every
>> single stroke (where they are inaudible for drums) instead of the note
>> as such, ties (indicating an actual lack of separation) instead tie the
>> whole roll into a single stroke, dynamics, well...
>> This is pretty much a disaster.
> It is in the need for user customization.

We are not talking about "could be tweaked to give a more natural
rendition" here.  We are talking about "blatantly and obviously
ludicrously wrong".

What you call "user customization" amounts to "forget articulate.ly and
write out a manual version yourself".  Which is certainly a workaround
(and was so before articulate.ly even existed) but is not really related
to fixing the problems in LilyPond and/or articulate.ly.

> I write out ornaments by hand to make sure they are correct. A spinoff
> is that one can also typeset a version with expanded ornaments, in
> case a performer would want to know.

That's nice but about as relevant as responding to a bug report about
LilyPond's typesetting by proposing to pencil in the problematic
expressions by hand.  And then calling it "user customization".

It may be a way to get results but it certainly is not fixing a bug (and
this is the bug reporting list of LilyPond, not the general user list).
And it would be embarrassing to even mention something like that in the

David Kastrup

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