Re: [Bug-XBoard] Gpsshogi don't work

[h . g . muller]

Op Do, 11 juli, 2019 2:25 pm schreef Sam Daille:
> I'll try all this, but I wonder if I had the same problem with another
> interface like tagua ?

If you cannot run the engines from the command line, as seems to be the
case with most engines you tried, no interface in the world can help you.

>
> Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 à 13:57, <address@hidden> a écrit :
>
>
>> Oh, I was a bit wrong in my previous message. It appears I actually did
>>  compile Bonanza on Ubuntu 10.04. And the required command is
>>
>> make gcc
>>
>> not just "make". And you should make sure you take the latest snapshot
>> of the 'test' branch of the repository, not the 'main' branch, which is
>> initially displayed. (The latter holds the original Bonanza source I
>> used as a starting point.)
>>
>> I just pushed a new commit to that 'test' branch, as although compiling
>>  worked on Ubuntu 10.04, it no longer did on Ubuntu 18.10. This was due
>> to the required libraries being mentioned near the start of the compile
>> command, rather than at the end. After I changed that it also compiles
>> on Ubuntu 18.10. It does give a few bogus warnings in the file csa.c
>> (which
>> contains code that would not be executed if you use it as an XBoard
>> engine). Just ignore those.
>>
>> Op Do, 11 juli, 2019 11:34 am schreef Sam Daille:
>>
>>> I have forgotten one thing : if you can explain me how to compil
>>> Bonanza
>>> using the files on your website, it will be nice of you. At first
>>> sight, it seems complicated to me...
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019 Ã  11:06, Sam Daille <address@hidden> a
>>> écrit
>>> :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I made few trials and I discovered :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * that shokidoki certainly had a compilation problem : when I
>>>> entered it in the prompt command, it's unknown, unlike gpshsogi (my
>>>> ubuntu is xenial, 16, which is far from 10) ;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * that gpsshogi can't be opened step by step as you suggested (when
>>>> I
>>>> put usi, it says usi, and so on) ;
>>>>
>>>> * that sjaakii don't work when I change the lines in .xboardrc (so
>>>> maybe I did a wrong thing ; the other engines don't work, but I
>>>> expected it) ;
>>>>
>>>> * that (which may explain my problems) polyglot wasn't installed on
>>>> my computer...
>>>>
>>>> So I'm going to try again with polyglot installed, and I'll say if
>>>> it works (I hope).
>>>>
>>>> Le mer. 10 juil. 2019 à 10:02, <address@hidden> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Op Wo, 10 juli, 2019 8:27 am schreef Sam Daille:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, I misunderstood the UCI/USI problem, now it's clearer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I installed uci2wb (and sjaakii and shokidoki), but the problem
>>>>>>  remains
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> when I changed the lines -adapterCommand -uxiAdapter on my
>>>>>> .xboardrc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> (by
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the prompt command or in hand), gpshsogi or shokidoki don't
>>>>>> work (but
>>>>>> sjakii work without this change, and it plays better than
>>>>>> gnushogi
>>>>> indeed
>>>>>> ^_^).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, one thing at the time...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is strange that Shokidoki doesn't work; this is not a USI
>>>>> engine, so the adapter commands should not matter for it, and you
>>>>> should be able to run it simply by "xboard -fcp shokidoki" from
>>>>> the command line (if the
>>>>> shokidoki binary is installed in a directory that is in your path,
>>>>>  like /usr/local/bin/), or "xboard -fcp ./shokidoki" if it is in
>>>>> the current directory. Like sjaakii.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shokidoki is closed source, so I only distribute the binary,
>>>>> which I compiled on my own Linux VM. Problem might be that this
>>>>> was an Ubuntu 10.04 machine, and that this is now so outdated that
>>>>> binaries from there so not work anymore on recent Ubuntus. Perhaps
>>>>> you could try to run it from the command line directly (i.e.
>>>>> wiythout XBoard), through "./shokidoki", and then type
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> xboard protover 2
>>>>>
>>>>> to see if and how it responds?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For GPS Shogi the same problem could apply. So the first step
>>>>> here would also be to try to run it from the command line, thoughe
>>>>> the command "gpsshogi". (Or perhaps "./gpsshogi", depending on
>>>>> where it was installed. I will assume in the following that the
>>>>> required command is simply "gpsshogi".) If it starts you should
>>>>> type the line
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> usi
>>>>>
>>>>> to it, and see if it responds by printing some "option name ..."
>>>>> lines followed by "usiok". And after that type "isready", to
>>>>> which it should respond with "readyok".
>>>>>
>>>>> If this works the next step would be to test it in combination
>>>>> with UCI2WB, through the command "uci2wb -s gpsshogi .", and type
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> xboard protover 2
>>>>>
>>>>> This should make it print a number of 'feature' lines ending with
>>>>>  "feature
>>>>> done=1". Typing
>>>>>
>>>>> post memory 64 new variant shogi level 40 5 0 time 10000 go
>>>>>
>>>>> to it should set it thinking, and finally print a move.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this does work the problem must be in the interaction with
>>>>> XBoard.
>>>>> To
>>>>> fiugure that out, first change the -uxiAdapter in the .xboardrc
>>>>> file to
>>>>>
>>>>> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb debug -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and start XBoard with the command
>>>>>
>>>>> xboard -variant shogi -fcp gpsshogi -fUSI -debug
>>>>>
>>>>> The inclusion of the extra 'debug' options should make UCI2WB
>>>>> report everything it does to XBoard, and make XBoard save all
>>>>> communication with UCI2WB on a file xboard.debug in the current
>>>>> directory. If things get stuck, just quit XBoard and attach that
>>>>> file to the e-mail so I can see what is going on.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed that in the .xboardrc there wasn't first an
>>>>>> -uxiAdapter
>>>>>> line, so maybe this line is useless ? Or maybe there is another
>>>>>> problem in the settings ?
>>>>>
>>>>> The -uxiAdapter setting specifies which command XBoard should
>>>>> issue for an engine that was accompanied by the option -fUSI /
>>>>> -sUSI. Where
>>>>> words starting with '%' refer to the value of the XBoard option
>>>>> with the corresponding name. XBoard has no hard-coded default for
>>>>> this, so if it was not set to a value in the master settings file,
>>>>> it will be defined as empty string, and the -fUSI/-sUSI option
>>>>> (and USI/UCCI
>>>>> checkbox in the menu dialog, which add that option) would not
>>>>> work. This was originally
>>>>> the case, as the .xboardrc you mailed me contained
>>>>>
>>>>> -adapterCommand 'polyglot -noini -ec "%fcp" -ed "%fd" -uci
>>>>> NalimovCache=%defaultCacheSizeEGTB -pg ShowTbHits=true'
>>>>> -uxiAdapter ""
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> which has it as an empty string. From the point-of-view of Ubuntu
>>>>>  package distribution that makes sense, as when you have not
>>>>> installed UCI2WB yet
>>>>> it could not work anyway. Ideally installing of UCI2WB would
>>>>> automatically set the -uxiAdapter in XBoard's settings to use it
>>>>> (as
>>>>> in theory there could be other USI adapters that you could have
>>>>> installed instead). The UCI2WB install procedure might not be
>>>>> smart enough to do that, though. This is why I wrote you should
>>>>> check it first.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can see that originally the -adapterCommand (used for engines
>>>>>  that specify -fUCI) originally was set to use Polyglot, which is
>>>>> a Chess-only
>>>>> adapter for UCI (and should also be installed as a separate Ubuntu
>>>>>  package before the -fUCI option can work). UCI2WB should be able
>>>>> to do the job as well, though, but there is no harm in having both
>>>>> UCI2WB
>>>>> and Polyglot on your system, so there isn't really any need to
>>>>> change -adapterCommand as
>>>>> long as you have Polyglot installed. This pertains to the problem
>>>>> of running Stockfish.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I joined you a copy of my .xboardrc, it may help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le mar. 9 juil. 2019 à 17:43, <address@hidden> a écrit
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither Stockfish nor GPS Shogi support XBoard protocol; they
>>>>>>> can only be used on XBoard with the aid of an adapter.
>>>>>>> Stockfish
>>>>>>> communicates in UCI, and GPS Shogi in USI. The UCI2WB adapter
>>>>>>> can handle both these protocols. So to use these engines you
>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) install uci2wb on your computer,
>>>>>>> 2) make sure xboard is configured to use UCI2WB as adapter
>>>>>>> rather than Polyglot, 3) use the -fUCI or -fUSI options when
>>>>>>> starting XBoard from the command line, (e.g. "xboard -fcp
>>>>>>> stockfish -fUCI"), or tick the UCI or USI/UCCI
>>>>>>> checkbox when you embed the engine through the Load Engine
>>>>>>> dialog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make sure step (2) is realized you could open the
>>>>>>> .xboardrc
>>>>>>> file (where the user settings for XBoard are saved) in your
>>>>>>> home directory with a text editor, and look at the value of
>>>>>>> the -adapterCommand and -uxiAdapter. The value for these should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -adapterCommand {uci2wb "%fcp" "%fd"}
>>>>>>> -uxiAdapter {uci2wb -%variant "%fcp" "%fd"}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only if this would not work there would be a genuine problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that GNUshogi is so buggy that it plays like total crap,
>>>>>>> and can randomly decide to overlook even mate in 1. There are
>>>>>>> a number of engines that are able to play decent Shogi on
>>>>>>> XBoard without
>>>>>>> adapter, though; in order of increasing strength these are
>>>>>>> Sjaak
>>>>>>> II, CrazyWa,
>>>>>>> Shokidoki and
>>>>>>> Bonanza (the XBoard version in my on-line repository
>>>>>>> http://hgm.nubati.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi ). I am not sure the
>>>>>>> latter would be weaker than GPS Shogi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op Di, 9 juli, 2019 5:09 pm schreef Sam Daille:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm on Ubuntu Xenial and I installed Xboard to play chess
>>>>>>>> and shogi, but :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Gpsshogi don't work (it never plays) when I open Xboard
>>>>>>>> with it (-variant shogi -fcp gpsshogi)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Stockfish don't work when I open xboard with it (-fcp
>>>>>>>> stockfish), it don't want to play and exit when I try to
>>>>>>>> force it to move now, but this bug is well-known :
>>>>>>>> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?56024
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried to limit the reflexion time and to change the size
>>>>>>>> of the board, but no way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have some ideas to suggest to me ? I'm ready to try
>>>>>>>> anything (because Gnushogi on Xshogi is really to weak for
>>>>>>>> me...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sam
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