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Re: I wish to help


From: Andy Walter
Subject: Re: I wish to help
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:32:01 +0200

Hi,

On Thursday 31 October 2002 12:15, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Has someone actually tried Rudolph with GNU Classpath?

Yes, it is running quite well here. But we replaced many native methods (all 
but 5) by Java code. Since Rudolph uses a proprietary interface, this 
replacement might be interesting for classpath. On the downside, our 
implementation diverged from Rudolph.


> Also take into account that Wonka contains only the java.awt,
> java.awt.event and java.awt.image packages. We have that and
> java.awt.color, java.awt.datatransfer, java.awt.dnd, java.awt.dnd.peer,
> java.awt.font, java.awt.geom, java.awt.im, java.awt.im.spi,
> java.awt.image.renderable, java.awt.peer and java.awt.print. The
> important advantage that Rudolph has is of course that the code that
> they have actually works!

Not only that but it also doesn't depend on GTK. I think it would be great to 
separate the top level graphics stuff from the low level peer classes by a 
common, well-defined interface. That way had three sets of peer classes 
(GTK-based, acunia framebuffer, jni framebuffer), but only one common set of 
top level classes, which are probably much more (I have to admit that 
personally, I don't have to do much with graphics).

I expect that the sooner we agree on such a common layer, the fewer redundant 
work there is on the top level.


> And please make sure that all arrangements between Acunia and the FSF
> are made clear and public. The last deal that was done with respect to
> the AWT code (with Transvirtual) was never communicated clearly and that
> produced some tensions. (I am perfectly happy to let RMS try to get a
> deal that is in the best interest of all free software users as long as
> it is clear in the end what has been decided.)

RMS for sure is the right person to do this. I had expected all agreements of 
the FSF to be made public and am surprised to read this wasn't the case with 
Transvirtual.


Cheers,

        Andy.

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