Re: Revolution Action (was: Re: [Little Off Topic] Revolution ison ; ))

[Chris Gray]

Mark (and everyone),

I happen to know the organiser of the Embedded track at FOSDEM quite well, so 
I was able to persuade him to [get his committee to agree to] put an extra 
item on the Call for Papers. Of course the Embedded track isn't the obvious 
place for a talk on Classpath, but most of the VM projects have a 
mobile/embedded angle to them, and most also happen to use Classpath ...

Dali was happy to see Kaffe mentioned by name: my aplogies to everyone else 
for "forgetting" your project. :) It would be good to have as many projects 
as possible represented, certainly as attendees and better still as [joint] 
authors. I think we should try to emphasise two aspects:
 - on the one hand, the diversity of projects and their special features;
 - on the other, the unifying factors, including the need to comply with a 
"proprietary" standard. In this Classpath of course plays a major role.

If we put on a good show then maybe we'll be able to get more space for Java 
next time around ...

On the JCP/JSPA/JCK thing, I'm also making enquiries quite independently of 
Mark/RMS (but I will keep Mark informed). So the chances that we'll have 
something to report by FOSDEM time are rather high.

Best wishes,

Chris
 
On Friday 12 December 2003 22:49, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 20:16, Chris Gray wrote:
> > Given that we have only a part of the Embedded track, I would suggest
> > that we do a group paper presenting the whole spectrum of Free / open
> > VMs; maybe Classpath should be part of this, maybe we should try for a
> > separate Classpath paper. We could try to get some kind of extended slot
> > for this, if the organisers will agree.
>
> I didn't realize that they still accepted presentations. Sascha and I
> made an abstract about a possible GNU Classpath talk which I send to two
> people from Fosdem. Since the talks were already announced on the Fosdem
> website I hoped to sneak it in as an unofficial talk. Knowing that there
> is still time to do a real abstract submission I am happy to discuss the
> current abstract and/or submit it properly. But I am not sure that the
> embedded track is to correct forum for GNU Classpath related stuff.
>
> Fosdem people are kind of hard to get hold off. Tried sending email to
> several addresses, but only yesterday got a small response. I did tell
> them that we are expecting at least 10 people already so that it would
> be nice to have a developer room were people can meet/hack/discuss. Will
> let you know if I get any reply. They said there would be a meeting next
> week to discuss Fosdem planning and requests from the community. So
> please try to contact them with ideas soon.
>
> > I'd also like to have an item on the
> > standardisation issue : by the time FOSDEM comes, either we will have
> > some positive news or a lot of bitching to do. ;>
>
> Richard Stallman recently asked about the JSPA and the JSR process.
> We are still discussing it. If we reach a conclusion I will email the
> list. If people have experience with the JSPA or serving on a JSR expert
> team and know what to expect from the process in regards to creating
> specs and/or software that is free software (friendly) I would like to
> hear.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark

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