Re: removing "su" from coreutils [Re: Fwd: [PULL] su

[Mike Frysinger]

On Wednesday 30 May 2012 09:50:57 Karel Zak wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:48:29PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Friday 25 May 2012 04:53:59 Karel Zak wrote:
> > >  login
> > >  
> > >     - already merged Suse version into original login from utils-linux.
> > >     
> > >       The result is PAM-only login(1) with /etc/login.defs support.
> > 
> > requiring pam is a problem.  i won't be able to convert over to
> > util-linux for utils that are pam-only.
> 
> Why? More details, please :-)
> 
> IMHO is better to use PAM everywhere than duplicate non-PAM code and
> assume that the code is correct and well tested. PAM is abstraction,
> the final configuration don't have to be complicated.

PAM is a complete waste of space on embedded devices and controlled systems.  
i'm not saying it isn't useful in many setups (perhaps even the majority), 
just that it is entirely unnecessary in a not insignificant number of other 
setups.
-mike

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