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Re: Fw: Re: [Denemo-devel] Percussion support


From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Denemo-devel] Percussion support
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:39:35 +0100

I've created an example of an entry for the keymap file which allows you
to enter the abbreviated note for eighth-notes either from the
EditDuration menu or by using the keyboard shortcut "8"
Obviously you would want a complete set. Also at the moment, there is no
convenient way of merging keymaps.
Watch this space.

Here is the keymap entry, for the curious:

      <script>
        <command>AbbrvEighth</command>
        <scheme>(d-InsertLilyDirective ":8")
</scheme>
        <menupath>/ObjectMenu/EditModeNote/EditDuration</menupath>
        <label>Abbreviated Eighth Note</label>
        <tooltip>Adds slashes to the preceding note to indicate is
should be played as repeated eighth notes</tooltip>
        <bind>8</bind>
      </script>
      <builtin>

Richard


On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 17:19 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> I've added a picture of abbreviated notes to the denemo.org website.
> 
> Nils - I was trying to put this in the Screenshots section (as it is not
> news). I went to the screenshots tab, and then did "create content", but
> it created News. Edit on the screenshots tab doesn't seem to be offering
> to take images??
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 17:12 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > I've added an example of Abbreviated notes in the examples gallery. The
> > denemo display does not show what is going to print yet, but the print
> > out is, I think, what you want.
> > It is still a little technical, doing this. With the new scripting
> > possibilities it should become easier.
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 13:03 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > > 
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > 
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:56:30 GMT
> > > From: "Edward Swanzey" <address@hidden>
> > > To: "Nils Gey" <address@hidden>
> > > Subject: Re:  [Denemo-devel] Percussion support
> > > 
> > > 
> > > May I also add re. percussion.  The biggest problem with most other music 
> > > manuscripting programs is
> > > that there is no way to write abbreviated notes.  This is quite crucial 
> > > to writing classical parts and
> > > drum corps music.  Classical American drummers are ALL trained to 
> > > interpret these notes
> > > as rolls with specific strokes.  Abbreviated notes are:  a quarter note 
> > > with one slash through
> > > the stem becomes 2 eighths notes.  Two slashes make it 4 16th notes.  
> > > Three slashes make
> > > the quarter note eight eighth notes.  In other words, the slash divide 
> > > the note whose stem it's
> > > on into two of it's next smaller divisions.  It is applied to ALL notes 
> > > with the same effect, even
> > > whole notes.  In classical string music, this same convention is applied, 
> > > and also to mandolin
> > > and other stringed instruments.  This is a MAJOR failure of nearly all 
> > > the music software
> > > on the market.  I am still forced to hand-write all my drum scores for 
> > > concert band, drum
> > > ensemble, and classical arrangements.
> > > 
> > > Thank you all for your hard work, this will be a great program.
> > > 
> > > Ed Swanzey
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Nils Gey" <address@hidden>
> > > Sent 8/24/2008 1:46:00 PM
> > > To: address@hidden
> > > Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] Percussion support
> > > 
> > > This is nice to hear but I think some time in the future different 
> > > noteheads should be a native feature of Denemo.
> > > 
> > > Since Percussion Notation is absolutly not a standard (as you can see 
> > > even those two examples are different) it would be nice to have ways to 
> > > reuse drum-notations.
> > > 
> > > I want to ask if its possible for you to make a template script avaible 
> > > where you can change notes with others. Maybe in the end its just a table 
> > > like "a2 to c4" while the system is intelligent enough to fulfill this 
> > > example:
> > > 
> > > "a2 to c4" and "c4 to b3". Off course this should result in c4s AND b3s 
> > > and not only in b3s :)
> > > 
> > > With a script-template like this it would be possible to make different 
> > > drumsetlayout and switch between them. The number-one example is notating 
> > > for midi and use the same as a printout for a real drummer.
> > > 
> > > greetings with real-world examples,
> > > 
> > > Nils
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:53:01 +0100
> > > Richard Shann wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 12:47 +0100, (Snare on wishlist at denemo.org)
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hello Rshann,
> > > > >
> > > > > here is a small piece of my handscoring:
> > > > > http://notimetoloose.nl/drumscore/Drumscore.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > And here is a bit of a professional :-)
> > > > > http://notimetoloose.nl/drumscore/Drumscore-pro.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > I found that I can change the notehead in denemo to X 'es but that is 
> > > > > a
> > > > > terrible job, especially with 16th on the Hihat :-)
> > > > You don't say why, but I just tried it and you have to change each note
> > > > one by one.
> > > > With the new scripting facility it will be easy to change all the
> > > > selected noteheads at once, or even create a mode where every note
> > > > entered has its notehead set to x
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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