Re: [Denemo-devel] tablature status (August 2012)

[Jeremiah Benham]

The windows git snapshot works perfectly in wine. I can work toward creating a 
static linux version in the next few days.

Jeremiah

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Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:

>On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 18:05 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
>> Il 07/08/2012 17:34, Richard Shann ha scritto:
>> > On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:09 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
>> >> Hi Denemo developers,
>> >>
>> >> I wonder what's the status of tablature support in Denemo.
>> >> Every now and then I try Denemo to check it but...as I've never used it,
>> >> I'm not sure if I'm missing something.
>> >>
>> >> I'm using Denemo 0.9.2 on Debian testing.
>> >> I can see that I can input the music in a Staff and choose TabStaff as
>> >> output. The PDF will contain only the TabStaff.
>> >> I don't know if this is a new feature or just the fact that I'm using
>> >> the lilypond mode.
>> > It's been in there for a while - 0.9.4 is pretty out of date - we have
>> > 0.9.6 ready. It tells LilyPond do print the staff as tab. If you want
>> > both the straightforward thing to do is to duplicate the staff I guess.
>> > That would be a bit crude though - if you edited one the other would
>> > need re-creating.
>> 
>> No, too crude :)
>> 
>> > With the upcoming release you could have a layout that printed the same
>> > music on two staffs one as tab the other as normal staff notation. (This
>> > is actually possible in 0.9.4 but you have to know LilyPond and create a
>> > custom scoreblock to do it in the View->LilyPond window - the score
>> > layout feature of 0.9.6 avoids you having to know the LilyPond to do
>> > this).
>> >
>> 
>> LilyPond is not a problem (actually I love LilyPond "interface" and I'm 
>> trying some frontend only for teaching purposes, as LilyPond is too 
>> geeky for most of people).
>> 
>> Good to know that 0.9.4 would support it somehow.
>hmm, I see I gave the impression this was new in 0.9.4, but actually you
>can do this sort of thing in versions going back much further. What is
>new in 0.9.6 is that you can have several different score layouts kept
>with your music, which don't need updating when you correct the music.
>And you can create many sorts of layouts without getting geeky with
>LilyPond.
>> My problem now is that I cannot compile Denemo without breaking other 
>> programs.
>> I decided not to use 'apt-get build-dep denemo' because it wanted to 
>> replace jack2 with jack. And I use some programs which depend on jack2: 
>> ardour and stretchplayer, for example.
>> So I tried installing dependencies one by one, following the warnings of 
>> configure. And I had to stop when installing libfluidsynth-dev, because 
>> again it wanted to replace jack2 with jack.
>> 
>> I'm stuck here.
>> Unfortunately even Debian sid doesn't have 0.9.4 yet:
>
>I think that is probably my fault for not alerting the Debian packager
>about 0.9.4, partly because I knew 0.9.6 was coming hot on its heels. 
>It sounds like this dependency problem is one between fluidsynth and
>jack? Not one we can do anything about in Denemo? I wonder if we should
>create a statically linked binary for GNU/Linux that people could try
>out, or use until the distros catch up... As it stands, folk running
>Windows are better off than those on GNU/Linux, which is bad for free
>software.
>If knowledgeable folk are listening in, please feel free to advise!
>
>Richard
>
>
>> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=denemo&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
>> 
>> >>
>> >> Obviously I'm looking for the normal workflow, such as in Tuxguitar and
>> >> in lilypond: you write the music in the Staff and you see the notes
>> >> (well, the numbers) appearing automatically also in TabStaff.
>> > If you are thinking about what you see as you enter the music (rather
>> > than what is printed) then no, Denemo has no routines to display tab.
>> 
>> I see, I guessed it
>> 
>> > You would enter notes and Denemo would print the same notes on two
>> > staffs one tab and one normal. Or you could have a layout where they
>> > were printed out one after the other as separate pieces of music, if
>> > that is what you wanted.
>> 
>> If 0.9.4 allows to enter music in one staff and make it appear in two 
>> staves, it would be a good compromise. At least I could print 
>> Staff+TabStaff, which is what I want.
>> 
>> Unfortunately I can't test it now.
>> 
>> > HTH
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >> Is it possible in Denemo?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> PS Link to the old manual is broken:
>> >> http://denemo.org/Manual
>> >
>> > hmm, where is the link? With the upcoming release you get tooltips
>> > almost everywhere... and the possibility of translating Denemo.
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> I mean, this page doesn't work:
>> http://old.denemo.org/doc/denemo-manual.html
>> 
>> Tooltips are a good solution, sometimes they can almost replace 
>> Documentation.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>
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