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Re: [Denemo-devel] tablature status (August 2012)

From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] tablature status (August 2012)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:51:25 +0100

On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 00:41 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
> Il 07/08/2012 20:21, Richard Shann ha scritto:
> > On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 18:05 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
> >>
> >>> With the upcoming release you could have a layout that printed the
> >> same
> >>> music on two staffs one as tab the other as normal staff notation.
> > I have been trying this out, and there is a wrinkle here. You create two
> > staffs set one as Tablature and put the music in just one leaving the
> > other blank, then in the score layout you want to replace the music of
> > the blank staff with the music of the other. But I didn't put an edit
> > button to do that :( so you would have to hit the convert to LilyPond
> > button and do it in the editor, geeky. I have created the appropriate
> > Edit button now and will check this in to git shortly...
> >
> Thanks Richard.
> However, thinking twice.. I don't think that using two staves is the way 
> to go. Why duplicating the staves when you can easily tweak the .ly 
> source to add a TabStaff?  I mean, there's no point of having two 
> identical staves.
Of course, it would look best if the Tab staff was fully drawn - it
should be trivial to add the "Tab" clef thing - but actually displaying
the tab notation would be real work. But having the two staffs there
gives a better impression of the final printed page. You see a tab staff
(with nothing in it) and a normal staff with the notes. On printing you
see two staffs with the tab staff now populated with the music from the
other staff.
> I think that music students can stand a bit of lilypond tweaking if most 
> of the editing is done in a GUI. I'm thinking about people who started 
> using Dreamweaver and then gradually learn some html.
> Sorry for the bad comparison! ;-)
> I have a problem with tweaking lilypond source _within Denemo_ 
> (exporting to .ly works fine).
> I click on View>Lilypond and I would expect to see some text in bold, 
> which, according to the doc, is the text which can be edited inside 
> Denemo. But nothing is in bold.. and I can't change anything.
> Why?
Well, with the versions up until 0.9.4 you would have gotten the last
bit of the file, the \score {} blocks in bold, and also any Denemo
directives like rehearsal marks, repeats, trills etc. These are editable
with the edits affecting the score (so there is a synchronization
between the LilyPond view and the Denemo display, quite hairy really,
though I have never managed to catch it out).
With the new score layout stuff only the stuff inside the music is
editable there, the non-music stuff is editable in the score layout
So you are seeing nothing in bold because you have no repeats, tempo
marks, fingerings ... nothing added to the notes. It is one of the
unfinished jobs that you can't just start typing anywhere between the
notes and get a Denemo directive created at that point. You have to
create a Denemo directive and then you can re-write its text. 


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