Re: [Denemo-devel] trouble creating parts

[Donald J. Stewart]

yes, this is much closer to what the composer (or at least his current 
editors) wanted...

There are a few things that I've sought to change in (my settings of) his 
notation practices, one of them being the key signatures problem.

This piece has been just unusual enough to create problems for a new 
Denemo and Lilypond user, like me, so I'm grateful for the help.

I'll try to Typeset Barlines literally in my score...

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:38:14 AM PST Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 23:01 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > I've attached what I'd like to do, it 'seems' like such an easy thing...
> > 
> > The example is in measure 73 of the attached PDF.
> 
> Well there are a number of unusual constructs in bar 73, I've done 
some
> of it in the attached sample:
>       * I turned on "Typeset Barlines Literally" as second-guessing
>         where automatic barlines will come can become tedious. The
>         downside is you have to manually beam the music.
>       * I used the ordinary start/end repeat bars, but the ones with
>         flags on are also available with a slightly different \bar
>         "xxxx" LilyPond syntax (see LilyPond manual).
>       * I used the RepeatMeasure command, but had to tweak the height 
of
>         the % sign in LilyPond, I don't know why - could do with a bug
>         report...
> 
> I didn't tackle the strange 5-naturals key signature, that would
> normally be a change from (say) 5-flats, but not here - you could try
> the LilyPond manual, or the LilyPond snippet repository or the
> address@hidden mailing list to find out how to do this.
> 
> Bottom line is that this sort of music notation requires plenty of
> direct work with LilyPond syntax (or use of a drawing program on the
> output).
> 
> Richard
> 
> > On Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:00:17 PM PST Richard Shann 
wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 12:15 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > thanks Richard, I should have remembered to upgrade my
> > > > commands...third time's a charm! I now have the Polymetric Staffs
> > > > feature in my menu.
> > > > 
> > > > The problem of displaying the barline ONLY in timpani has not
> > > > changed,
> > > > however.
> > > > 
> > > > In your example (the example you attached), when I change the
> > > > Polymetric Staffs to conditional in:
> > > > Movements->Movement Properties Editor->Polymetric Staffs
> > > > 
> > > > I easily toggle the 'conditional' directive to:
> > > > 'Ignore for the Layout for Part "TrebleRecorder"
> > > 
> > > I think you mean, "When I make the PolymetricStaffs directive
> > > conditional with the condition "Ignore  the Layout for Part
> > > "TrebleRecorder""
> > > 
> > > which wouldn't ever be a useful thing to do, since that layout has (I
> > > presume) only one staff, and so there couldn't be any bar lines or 
time
> > > signatures on other staffs conflicting. The directive just allows you 
to
> > > have independent stuff on different staffs in the same Score Layout.
> > > 
> > > I think you would want to have Polymetric staffs unconditional in all
> > > the use-cases I can think of... Perhaps a drawing of what you want 
to
> > > achieve?
> > > 
> > > Richard