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Re: [Denemo-devel] Denemo binary for Mac

From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] Denemo binary for Mac
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:56:51 +0000

On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 01:48 -0700, Jan Bielawski wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for your e-mail! One more question, a bit of a problem.

It sounds like more than "a bit of a problem"!!! I wonder are you using
the version from the MacOSX button on the Downloads page at
That is this file:

If so have you tried the later

version? Some people have reported builds of Denemo simply failing to
run at all on the Mac High Sierra version xxx, but it is difficult to
know which build of Denemo they are trying.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a Mac for testing anything, (and I
don't know how it has been built) but I do know that Denemo runs well
under Wine, which is available for the Mac. 

You *could* customize Denemo to avoid using popping up windows - for
example a specific tempo command, once created, could be used to create
a custom palette button that would insert that tempo marking when you
clicked on it. But it would take a lot of setting up and someone may
tackle building Denemo for whatever newer version of the Mac it is that
is causing trouble meanwhile. I realize this must be very frustrating


>  I'm no
> Mac High Sierra (10.13.4) and two of the buttons (the "Allegro" and
> the "fp" one) make Denemo disappear. It looks just like a crash but
> Denemo is not crashing: only all its windows disappear. To continue,
> I
> need to double-click on in my Applications folder and the
> windows come back. But the "Allegro" (tempo) button has several popup
> windows to go through, and clicking "OK" on each causes the same
> windows disappearance. So I have to go through this extra
> double-clicking on the app something like 6 times just to add a tempo
> indication. Is this something that can be fixed easily? A known Mac
> problem perhaps?
>     Thanks again,
> --
> Jan
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:10 AM Richard Shann <address@hidden
> m> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 13:47 -0700, Jan Bielawski wrote:
> > > (the one with the older, more compact, GUI look)
> > 
> > This bit of your message is something I can help with: there really
> > isn't any difference in the compactness of the recent versions of
> > Denemo. It's just that I thought it was a good idea(*) to present a
> > series of palettes by default that would enable people who want to
> > press a few buttons and see notes appearing and so on. You only
> > have to
> > get rid of them once (right-click on a button and choose "Edit
> > Palette"
> > and then "Hide") and you will never see them again. You can make
> > the
> > Denemo Display as compact as you need (see the View menu for
> > removing
> > bits you don't want) even down to removing all menus palettes and
> > toolbars leaving just the  music you are editing (press Esc a few
> > times).
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Richard
> > (*) Perhaps this is a mistake and we should ship with a minimal
> > interface... people are so used to not being able to adjust the GUI
> > for
> > their own purposes that they don't think of looking at the
> > possibility.
> > People who are actually going to go on and use Denemo a lot will
> > want
> > to use the keyboard to do most of the work as it is much more
> > efficient
> > once you know what it is you want to do. The snag is that by the
> > time
> > people realize they are wanting to do a lot of music typesetting
> > they
> > have already got used to dragging notes and stuff around with a
> > mouse
> > and are stuck with such tedious work.

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