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Re: Problems with shortcuts


From: gerard . nollez
Subject: Re: Problems with shortcuts
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 11:12:43 +0100 (CET)

Sorry, the file link was wrong, here is the correct one. 

----- Mail original -----
De: "gerard" <gerard.nollez@free.fr>
À: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
Cc: "denemo-devel" <denemo-devel@gnu.org>
Envoyé: Samedi 28 Janvier 2023 11:05:10
Objet: Re: Problems with shortcuts

The denemo file you asked for is attached.

The "stopped" articulation is a result of the directive "Set trill style as +" 
that I used , correct ?

An other little inconvenience with this new version, the e accute (é) is no 
more recognized in comments or title !

Gérard

----- Mail original -----
De: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
À: "gerard" <gerard.nollez@free.fr>, "denemo-devel" <denemo-devel@gnu.org>
Envoyé: Samedi 28 Janvier 2023 10:23:53
Objet: Re: Problems with shortcuts

On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 10:04 +0100, gerard.nollez@free.fr wrote:
> Sorry for the late answer but I have not received the mail of
> Richard, I have found it exploring the denemo-devel archives.
> 
> 
> > Which version of Denemo?
> 
> Flatpak 2.6.0
> 
> > yesterday I saw a message about the new version of LilyPond
> > 2.24.what message?

OK, the message will be the one warning you that you are using a newer
version(2.24) of LilyPond than the one you last used to successfully
typeset your score. This is generally ok, but especially if you have
more exotic things (inserted LilyPond syntax for example) then the new
version of LilyPond may fail to interpret it as did the old version.



> 
> Opening Denemo as usual a tooltip appeared informing me of the
> version change 2.24 with some comments that I forgot, it never
> reappeared.
> 
> > Alternatively, open the LilyPond View (with View->LilyPond) and
> > right click->Typeset and send any messages reported there.
> 
> The result of View->LilyPond for my current denemo file:

This is the syntax generated by Denemo that is passed to LilyPond, but
if you right click->Typeset on it you will see messages in the panel at
the bottom of the LilyPond View which will tell you of anything
LilyPond has found to report on...


> 
> ============================================
> 
> %% LilyPond file generated by Denemo version 2.6.0
> 
> %%http://www.gnu.org/software/denemo/
> 
> \version "2.24"
> 
> CompactChordSymbols = {}
> #(define DenemoTransposeStep 0)
> #(define DenemoTransposeAccidental 0)
> DenemoGlobalTranspose = \void {}
> titledPiece = {}
> AutoBarline = {}
> AutoEndMovementBarline = \bar "|."
> #(define DenemoTransposeStep 3)
> #(define DenemoTransposeAccidental 0)
> 
> DenemoGlobalTranspose = #(define-music-function (parser location
> arg)(ly:music?) #{\transpose d g#arg #})
> trill = #(make-articulation "stopped")
> 
> % The music follows
> 
> MvmntIVoiceI = {
>          d''8 d'' a'16 b'( a' b') c'' c''( bes' c'') a'4\AutoBarline
>          a'8 a' g'16 g'( f' e') f' f'( e' d') a d'( e'
> d')\AutoBarline
>          cis' g'( a' g') d''8 d'' c'' d''16( c'') b'8 b'\AutoBarline
>          f'' f'' e''16 e''( d'' e'') f'' f''( e'' d'') e'' e''( f''
> e'')\AutoBarline
> %5
>          <d ' f ' a ' d''>4 c''16 f'( g' a') bes'8 bes' bes' a'16-
> \trill( f'16)\AutoBarline
>          a' f''( e'' f'') d''8 d'' e''16 f''( e'' d'') <a '
> cis''>4\AutoBarline
>          g''8 g'' <d ' f ' a ' f''>4 e''16-\trill d''16( cis'' d'')
> cis''!8-\trill a'8\AutoBarline
>          <a ' cis '' e''>4 d''16 a'( b' cis'') b'4-\trill c''8
> bes'\AutoBarline
>          <f ' a'>4 g'16 e'( f' g') a'8 e' f' e'\AutoBarline
> %10
> =====================================================================
> ================
> In bars 5 and 7 the command \trill is well taked into account in the
> print view BUT NOT in the music editor,
> see the attached screen copy. The same for other various ornaments.

That is very strange. (I expect you are aware that the trill is being
typeset as a "stopped" articulation - this is the result of a Denemo
Directive that has been created for the score). To achieve the effect
of nothing showing in the Denemo Display which you have posted would
require editing the Denemo Directives that generate the \trill syntax
in the LilyPond view which you have listed above. What that is could be
found by examining them in the Object Editor using the Advanced option,
or by looking in the Denemo file itself. Can you post this Denemo file
that fails to display the trills?

Richard




> 
> Cordialement,
> Gérard
> 
> 
> De: "gerard" <gerard.nollez@free.fr>
> À: "denemo-devel" <denemo-devel@gnu.org>
> Cc: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
> Envoyé: Mardi 24 Janvier 2023 09:17:25
> Objet: Problems with shortcuts
> 
> Hello!
> Opening Denemo yesterday I saw a message about the new version of
> LilyPond 2.24.
> I did not quite understand if I had to do something, in any case I
> did nothing.
> 
> But I notice that a number of my shortcuts no longer work, in the
> menu Notes/Markings/text Symbol or Articulations 
> or Ornaments. The corresponding buttons do not work either! My
> shortcuts are well defined ( no tooltip xx is not a shortcut)
> and are in the file Default.shortcuts. The other shortcuts work fine,
> as far as I've used them all.
> 
> I'm really bored and I don't know what to do. Thanks for any help!
> 
> Cordialement,
> 
> Gérard
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

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