Re: [directory-discuss] Game plan for 'bait and surrender' and 'freedom betrayed' packages in the directory

[Ian Kelling]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, at 05:11 PM, Ian Kelling wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016, at 01:31 PM, David Hedlund wrote:
> > The term that are already in use to describe this scenario is
> >        called "open core". We don't use the term "open", at least not
> >        in a positive meaning, but situation is different. Here we
> >        actually have the chance to put "open" in negative light.
> >
> >
> > MySQL is an example: 
> > Oracle[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Corporation]'s 
> > MySQL[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL] database software is 
> > dual-licensed under a proprietary license,
> >        and the GNU GPL[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GPL]; proprietary
> >        versions offer additional features and enterprise support plans.
> >        - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_core#Examples
> >
> >
> > Do you think we should use the term "open core" to describe
> >        partially proprietary software?
> 
> 
> I thought about this a bit more, and remembered this blog post:
> http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/03/05/open-core-slur.html, which can be
> summed up that people say open core for a lot of different situations,
> and different people have different ideas of what you mean when you say
> it, so it's better not to use it. Also, when you explain it, it really
> leads you to say open source. Also, people tend to think of it as
> referencing a business model of selling proprietary software, but
> I don't think the category should really reference that specific
> business model, there could be other reasons something fits in this 
> category.
> 
> I think our other term "Bait and Surrender" is fine, but it looks like
> it's going to be essentially the same definition as the f-droid category
> "Non free Addons: the application promotes other non-Free apps or
> plugins," and that one seems find too, so I think it will be better for
> our users to use the same one as F-droid, so that they can use both fsd
> and F-droid and understand the label faster and easier since it is
> common to both.

Also, in the definition "other non-Free apps" might seem a little
ambiguous but I think better than something like "nonfree version with
more features", which needlessly describes benefits of nonfree software.