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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Daughterboard
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Daughterboard
Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:44:40 -0500
Thunderbird 220.127.116.11 (Windows/20090812)
Just to kick in our experience at Virginia Tech, we have several STA's
because we do a lot of wireless work. I believe this link will take you
to our license:
The process is not as bad as I had originally thought coming into all of
this. In fact, we used to have a graduate student fill out the online
forms and manage them. You do need to provide the FCC with a
significant amount of info, some of which is a little hard to do when
working on numerous completely different software radio applications
with varying waveforms and frequencies. The important items are
obviously location, radiated power and frequency.
We just assume if it's going over the air we'll need a license, although
like Tim mentioned earlier, it's certainly possible to stay under the
Part 15 limits.
Tim Pozar wrote:
To echo what John sent. There are provisions to do testing and very
limited radiation from "intentional radiators". You can see them
outlined in Part 15 of the FCC Rules and Regulations...
Depending on the frequency/band you are going to use, there are levels
that you can operate under. Typically, levels are rated in how many
microvolts per meter that is induced on an antenna that is X number of
meters away from the radiating device.
If you just want to test a product, it is better to bench test it using
a closed system with coax and attenuators to simulate free space loss.
This way you can be assure you are not leaking out RF energy that could
be causing interference, you can be assured that you are testing with
known RF levels to confirm receiver sensitivity and transmitter power
levels and you are shielded from outside interferences that could affect
If you need to test in free space, depending on the band you are using,
you may be under Part 15 rules to produce very low levels of RF.
Anything beyond that would require, as John said, an Special Temporary
Authorization for an experimental license. You can see some details at:
If you are going to be operating on a frequency that is already in use,
you will need to coordinate with that license holder and get permission
to use it. You will need to demonstrate this to the FCC when applying
for your STA. This is one of the reasons why the OpenBTS picked Black
Rock and Burning Man to test. It gave them a rather isolated area with
that would be easier to coordinate with and a population to test with.
A brilliant move if I may say so.
If you want to get an STA, I suggest you work with a telecom attorney
that has some experience in this area as it will speed the process up
considerably. The OpenBTS folks may be able to help. I can point you
at lawyers in this area if you like.
on 3/4/10 3:28 PM John Gilmore said the following:
When we use any of the USRP daughterboard to transmit, do we need the
authorization? For example, FRX900 includes the cell phone bands in US. If
we use FRX900 to transmit, do we violate the FCC rule? Or, we could legally
use any daughterboard on any band that falls in the frequency range of the
When the OpenBTS folks transmit in the cellphone bands, such as at
Burning Man last year, they get an STA (Special Temporary
Authorization) from the FCC. They also get permission from the chief
engineer of one of the incumbent cellular licensees in the area, to
avoid interference with already-licensed traffic.
I don't recommend proceeding without those precautions.
I believe no license is needed to do bench testing with a dummy load
that doesn't radiate beyond the tabletop. Merely opening the metal
cover of your PC probably causes more electromagnetic radiation than
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Daughterboard, Johnathan Corgan, 2010/03/04
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Daughterboard, John Gilmore, 2010/03/04
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Daughterboard, Kelly Martin, 2010/03/05