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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNURadio is disappointing [was: Greeting and a qu


From: Moeller
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNURadio is disappointing [was: Greeting and a question]
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:24:31 +0100
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On 21.01.2011 10:19, Martin Braun wrote:

> But all these open hardware threads seem to neglect that there's a
> powerful *software* tool out there for real-time signal processing, and
> a lot is happening at that end. GNU Radio is much more than the USRPs;
> in fact, it's *not even* the USRPs.
> I'm not quite sure what your email is trying to say. What I read is that
> GNU Radio's not going anywhere and that it's merely a tool to promote
> the selling of USRPs.

Isn't it boring to do "real-time signal processing" without hardware?

For offline simulation there are tools like GNU Octave, Scilab or Matlab
with more communications, modulation, signal analysis and graphical 
capabilities.
These are more than sufficient for simulations and theoretical studies.
I know, Gnuradio is also a nice signal processing software by itself,
but the real advantage of Gnuradio is the real-time processing
with hardware sources and sinks. For offline analysis, there are toolboxes
for TF spectral analysis etc.:
http://tftb.nongnu.org/
http://tfd.sourceforge.net/
or signal processing:
http://octave.sourceforge.net/communications/overview.html
http://octave.sourceforge.net/informationtheory/overview.html
http://octave.sourceforge.net/signal/overview.html
In Gnuradio I'm missing all these analytical capabilities.
Just for generating modulated signals you don't need Gnuradio.
Gnuradio is relevant when you're operating on continuous streams.

I'm not against pure software development.
But please respect the opinion that people also want hardware for
real-time signal processing. Somebody who asks for hardware is not
interested in answers that software is much more beautiful.

> comparable in the open source domain. So if GNU Radio really sucks,
> then how about a proper discussion on what's wrong. And not about which
> HF-frontend costs how much.

The hardware question is very important for people that are not
financially supported by the tax-payer like in your institution.




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