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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP2 Spectrum Sensing Help


From: devin kelly
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP2 Spectrum Sensing Help
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:59 -0400

Thanks Jason, Marcus,

I forgot to mention I'm using the WBX, not the TVRX.  I'm using the UHD as well.

The flowgraph

uhd_single_source -> agc2 -> streamToVector -> fft_vcc -> cmplexToMagitude -> binStatistics

I added the agc2 block recently, I have similar problems without it.

Usually I'm interested in sweeping from 50 MHz to 2.2 GHz, but this scan was from 558 MHz to 568 MHz.  The FFT size I use is usually 512 or 1024.  I believe the decimation rate here is 256, but both problems persist no matter the decimation/sampling rate I select.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jason Abele <address@hidden> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:10 AM, devin kelly <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've created a spectrum sensor with the USRP2, my python script uses the
> same idea as usrp_spectrum_sense.py found in gnuradio.  That is, it tunes,
> takes an FFT, records, retunes, etc.

Could you post a flowgraph or tell us what frequencies you are tuning
sweeping across, what step size, any averaging you use, sample rate or
decimation, etc.

> I have two problems with my data though.  In the file attached is some TV
> spectrum (left half) and noise (right half).
>
> My first question is this: why isn't the spectrum for the TV signal flat, it
> seems to bob up and down.  Note that each segment is from a different FFT,
> that is each FFT produces that oval shape.  At first I thought this had
> something to do with the window I was using but I've tried hamming,
> blackman-harris, and rectangular windows and they all have this effect.

The TVRX has a 6MHz bandpass filter, which will add shape to the
spectrum you sense and even if you pick a smaller than 6Msps sample
rate, you will still have several effects to consider:

* Aliasing of energy inside the 6MHz bandpass
* Probably 75% of the 6MHz is the flat region
* TVRX has finite tuning steps, so you may be causing the USRP2 DDC to
push your IF against the edge of the TVRX bandpass

> My second question is why isn't the transition between TV spectrum and noise
> more smooth? It looks like it could be smooth but the gain seems to jump for
> an FFT right after 566 MHz and then settle down again.  I thought this might
> be the AGC but I've tried different attack/decay rates, different reference
> levels, etc with the agc2_cc block but the problem remains.
>

I am not familiar with the agc2 block, but I would recommend against
using AGC until you are confident you have handled the bandpass nature
of TVRX properly

> Any help with either of these questions would be appreciated,

If you are using UHD, you might consider using the uhd::tune_result_t
returned by set_center_freq() to make sure you are staying centered in
the bandpass filter

 
 When I do a sweep from 558MHz to 568MHz with my decimation rate of 256 I get these results from tune_result_t.  Note this isn't all the results, but I think you can get the idea from these.

Target Inter Frequency  567277343.75  Actual Inter Frequency  567277167.277
Target DSP Frequency  -128.777472496  Actual DSP Frequency  -128.778629005
Target Inter Frequency  567472656.25  Actual Inter Frequency  567472527.473
Target DSP Frequency  -81.0821123123  Actual DSP Frequency  -81.0716301203
Target Inter Frequency  567667968.75  Actual Inter Frequency  567667887.668
Target DSP Frequency  -33.3867521286  Actual DSP Frequency  -33.3879143
Target Inter Frequency  567863281.25  Actual Inter Frequency  567863247.863
Target DSP Frequency  -1511.94291818  Actual DSP Frequency  -1511.9323507
Target Inter Frequency  568058593.75  Actual Inter Frequency  568057081.807
Target DSP Frequency  -891.903235674  Actual DSP Frequency  -891.904346645
Target Inter Frequency  558097656.25  Actual Inter Frequency  558096764.347

The DSP frequency is all over the place, from -30 to -1500, why is it always negative?

Thanks Again,
Devin


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