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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Broadcast FM is crap!

From: Andrew Davis
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Broadcast FM is crap!
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:58:57 -0500

Right, all instruments and voice are mono sources, so to make stereo
they just pan the instrument tracks to one side or another, with the
Beatles and the like, they had the original instruments tracks so the
could re-release them as stereo by moving the tracks around. My
example was Pink Floyd, as they would pan instruments back and forth
to give the effect of flying around though space or something, almost
like using stereo as an instrument.

But as said, nowadays all people have are crappy iPod ear-buds and car
stereos, so you cant really hear anything anyway.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Tim Pozar <address@hidden> wrote:
> Keep in mind that early stereo recordings were Left/Center/Right as pan-pots 
> were not available on some consoles.  The stereo release of Sgt. Peppers is a 
> good example of this.
> Tim
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Andrew Davis wrote:
>> I find quite the opposite, 60's bands will sometimes have the most
>> stereo separation. When stereo recording came out they made the most
>> of it, they would put whole instruments on just one channel, it would
>> make you feel like you are in the middle of the band. Then the 70's
>> "wall-of-sound" came out and it started to be had to pull generated
>> instruments to one side without ruining the effect. Now its all just
>> mono again.
>> In this digital age its kinda strange we still use analog modulation.
>> If it were digital, and there was not L-R information it would just
>> encode the one signal better, not wasting information and bandwidth
>> like FM.
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Marcus D. Leech <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> On 02/19/2012 12:46 PM, Andrew Davis wrote:
>>>> The is a lot of really cool reasons for the stereo to be the way it
>>>> is, check out http://transmitters.tripod.com/stereo.htm  it's an
>>>> amazing read.
>>>> Also the problem of no stereo signal is probably with modern music,
>>>> there is not much difference between L and R anymore, just a single
>>>> channel of mass produced noise, so since the're subtractive, silence
>>>> is broadcast on the L-R signal, not like days past when Pink Floyd
>>>> would fly you though space on both channels!
>>> Yes, I recognize that a lot of modern mixing leads to almost no stereo
>>> separation.
>>>  But this is a classic rock station.  I would expect the really-old stuff
>>> (old Beetles, for
>>>  example) to be mono, but stuff produced in the 1970s and 1980s you'd expect
>>> to
>>>  have good stereo separation.
>>> Ironically, the *advertisements* have better stereo than the music sources!!
>>> --
>>> Marcus Leech
>>> Principal Investigator
>>> Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
>>> http://www.sbrac.org
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