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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] (no subject)

From: vingnu GNU
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] (no subject)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 04:46:55 +0000

you are right I hope now you came to know my problem,I have got same question when i have seen those examples so I had asked question,
whether am I able to generate such kind of continuous wave  from gnuradio(I am having hardware USRP E310) or not? because examples what I have gone through does not having bandwidth but what I am going to generate have some constant bandwidth of 60MHz and 4KHz(250usec) of dwell time.
At least if it is not supporting 60MHz bandwidth is it will support for 25MHz?


On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Marcus Müller <address@hidden> wrote:
Hi Vingnu,

can you please try to keep discussions on the list?

I still don't understand:
Your graph then tells me that the amplitude would be high over bandwidths of 60MHz, and low for bandwidths of 4MHz, right?
Still, all your other explanations indicate you're talking about single tones (like the signal_generator_cw from the examples you cite generate), which don't have a bandwidth at all.
This is all very contradicting!

Best regards,

On 16.12.2015 06:03, vingnu GNU wrote:
This is regarding x and y axis of graph what I have posted in last post.
(1)Y-axis is amplitude and (2)X-axis is frequency.Amplitude remains
constant and frequency has to be increase in terms of steps(60MHz).
Examples what I have referred for CW is USRP echotimer _CW in (exaples
USRP) and simulator_CW (in simulators) these examples are from gr-radar
tool kit.


On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:04 AM, vingnu GNU <address@hidden> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marcus Müller <address@hidden> Date: Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] (no subject) To: vingnu GNU <address@hidden>, Kevin McQuiggin <address@hidden>, GNURadio Discussion List <address@hidden>
Hi Vinay, Really sorry for images sizes Don't be sorry! A few hundred kilobyte won't break the mailing list, and it's always a good thing to illustrate your system well; I've spent much (too much?) time in university labs, and believe me, there's nothing more crucial about science and technological progress than to be able to communicate your knowledge; pictures are a very good way of doing that. So: let's consider this: [image: Waveform] Since we're talking about SDR with USRPs, there's two ways you can interpret this graphic, if it stands alone: 1. This is the equivalent baseband signal, or 2. This is the electrical signal as "seen" by the antenna (RF signal). Considering the time axis, the first (0-2ns) slot has 1GHz of frequency, and the second period (4ns-6ns) has 2GHz. That means that (since there is no USRP with a >=2GHz sampling rate) this can only be interpreted as the antenna signal, so this is case 2. This means that, yes, this is possible in principle, but not quite in the shape shown: you tune your USRP to frequency 1, and transmit a constant baseband value (e.g. 1+0j) for your "dwell time"; then, you start tuning to the next frequency, and transmit 0's, and then another "dwell time" worth of constant value, and so on. Aside from the obvious timing impossibility (the shown waveform has a tone duration of 2ns; that won't be possible with any USRP; our DAC/ADC don't exist in a 500MS/s variant so far), you cannot continue the wave at the same zero phase, so the phase of the wave at each transmission start won't be zero, but some other value. However, there are USRP/daughterboard combinations that allow for a fixed phase reconstruction at tuning. Hence my *repeated* question: What is your USRP, and if applicable, your daughterboard?¹ Then, you have a second picture, which I admittedly really do not understand: [image: What's this?] I had the feeling that this was some kind of Y-over-X graph, but I really could not tell what the axis and the meaning of your line are, so could you please define ?1 and ?2, as well as explain what the graph means? What happens there? Best regards, Marcus ¹I really usually don't nitpick, but it's really hard to get the information out of you to help you, so I'm asking you explicitly: Please always answer all questions we ask so that we can actually help you! On 15.12.2015 07:30, vingnu GNU wrote: Hi, This is the wave form I required to generate and Its a step frequency CW starts from 1GHz and ends with 2GHz,constant incremental steps of 60MHz and 4KHz of dwell time. pic2 shows the waveform in frequency Vs time domain. Really sorry for images sizes [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 2] Regards Vinay On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Kevin McQuiggin <address@hidden> <address@hidden> wrote: Hi Vingnu: Perhaps you mean a swept frequency from 1 GHz to 2 GHz? The group needs further information. Kevin Sent from my iPad On Dec 14, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Marcus Müller <address@hidden> <address@hidden>
wrote: Hi Vingnu, so you mean that on one frequency, you want to have a CW tone, and one the next frequency another etc, but not continuous phase across frequencies. ** Do I understand that correctly? ** I'm confused because you then mention "pulses", and that is a concept that is incompatible with CW radar. Hardware-wise, most USRPs (which one are you using) support timed commands so that you can tune at a specific sample time. For those that don't, you'll have to use some time buffers, but it's essentially what the example probably does that you cite -- though you're not really telling me which example exactly you're referring to. All in all, please try to make your questions a little more precise, add all the details that are important right from the start. Best regards, Marcus On 14.12.2015 12:05, vingnu GNU wrote: Hi , That is nothing but in examples of USRP they have used FMCW for target simulator with frequency modulated CW here in my case I am going to use unmodulated CW . My question was ,is it possible to increment this CW signal source interms of 60MHz step size and keeping 250usec of dwell time between 60MHz steps and it should be upto 2GHz and repeating same in next cycle. ex: first frequency is 1GHz it has to add 60MHz step size and keep 250usec of dwell time i.e.,after 1.06GHz pulse it has to maintain 250usec dwell time before next 60MHz pulse . regards vingnu On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Marcus Müller < address@hidden> wrote: Hi Vingnu, that's all nice, but what does "continuous wave" _mean_? Best regards, Marcus On 14.12.2015 10:02, vingnu GNU wrote: Hi marcus, Its like this : generating continuous wave of signal which starts from 1GHz and it has to increase in steps of 250usec upto 2GHz.Then I wanted to feed it for Radar transmitter.Its like generating Step frequency continuous wave signal for radar transmitter. Is it possible from GNU radio and I am having USRP E310 right now. regards Vingnu On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Marcus Müller < address@hidden wrote: Hi Vingnu, note that GNU Radio is software that handles sample streams, so yes, any signal that you can imagine in a given bandwidth can be generated; the question is whether you can realize that signal in the physical world. So: * do you just want to simulate the signal or really transmit that? * if you want to transmit that, with which hardware? * what exactly is "continuous wave" for you here? Continuous for a single frequency step, or continuous across multiple frequencies? Best regards, Marcus On 14.12.2015 05:59, vingnu GNU wrote: Hi every one, Is this possible to generate step frequency continuous wave for frequency range of 2GHz to 4GHz in GNU radio and step size in range of 250micro seconds(Dwell time). regards Vingnu _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnuradio mailing address@hidden:// lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ______________________________
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