Re: GNUstep Window Manager (was RE: Idea)

[Helge Hess]

Hi,

IMHO the discussion brought up some interesting points. Eg the
discussion "use WM or write an ObjC window manager" is 100% the same to
me like the discussion "use Qt/gtk+ or write gstep-gui". There already
are stable implementations which have success and I wonder were there is
the sense to make another one. It doesn't even provide MacOSX
compatibility anymore (given that it enjoyed some major rewrites, eg
Quartz) and therefore is completly on it's own.

IMHO the race there is already running and GNUstep-gui didn't even made
it to the start. Further I think that the 'technological advantage'
which GNUstep might have had three years ago is basically void now. In
1996 a NeXTstep+IB was incredible, today a PyQt, PyWxWindows or even
Mozilla-XUL are (IMHO of course) much more powerful and flexible.

Maybe I'm overhyped, but personally I think that the future are standard
based 'Widget-Servers' ! Something along the lines of Mozilla-XUL or
InternetExplorer5  DHTML (or in it's simplest form, HTML-Forms).
Because of this, IMHO a great goal would be to rethink GNUstep and maybe
use gstep-web as a starting point for the client part [which is actually
the server in the browser sense ;-)], not the UI part, of such an
environment.

Just my idea to this unusable-UI-for-some-years-now issue,
  Helge

btw: IMHO OmniWeb is in a somewhat similiar situation. Nice technology,
incomparable to IE and even NS6 nevertheless. Other people do not sleep
too [even if they are C++ developers] ;-)