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Re: GNUstep Window Manager (was RE: Idea)


From: Philippe C . D . Robert
Subject: Re: GNUstep Window Manager (was RE: Idea)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:58:56 +0100

Frederic <address@hidden> wrote (Sat, 06 Jan 2001 21:46:32 +0100):
<snip>
> > This is maybe the most dangerous attitude we GNUstep folks can have!!! gtk+ 
> > and Qt are *not* insufficient, they proof the contrary every day. The fact 
> > that their API is not as elegant as GNUstep does not make them bad or even 
> > unusable!!! I just don't understand why one still can say that gtk and 
> > other toolkits are insufficient, when GNOME and KDE are 100% usable and 
> > have an installed base that exceeds the one of OPENSTEP, NEXTSTEP, Mac OS X 
> > and GNUstep together by factors!
> > 
> > We can only 'win' if we take our competitors for serious!
> 
> I particulary agree on that point.
> GNUstep-gui, even when complete, will not be better or worst than GTK or
> QT. We definitively cannot "win" developpers with that. But we should be
> able to do so thanks to GNUstep overall simplicity and ease of use (from
> a developer point of view). This is particulary true compared to GNOME,
> which is really a mess to develop. This point is, IMHO, the strongest
> argument we have to convince developpers. (productivity is key when
> missing resources).

...and given the existence of EasyGTK, glade, the 'KDE VB clone', the 
forthcoming Kylix and other stuff, it will getting harder and harder to 
convince developers to choose GNUstep, because learning a new programming 
language (which is for most new GS developer the case) often means slowing the 
productivity for some time...

...while I also know from my own experience when teaching other (experienced!) 
programmers do ObjC and Cocoa/OPENSTEP that Cocoa/GNUstep/OpenStep has a steep 
learning courve, if you are not familiar with dynamic OO programming 
paradigms...

cheers, Phil
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Philippe C.D. Robert | http://www.nice.ch/~phip/






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