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Re: Is GNUstep really cross platform?


From: John Davidorff Pell
Subject: Re: Is GNUstep really cross platform?
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:39:00 -0800

I plan on contributing. :-)

Also, I never said that I needed the apple runtime, I would be happy with a GNU runtime installed into GNUstep's dir tree. :-)

JP

P.S. I would be happy to test it, if you like. :-)

On Dec 5, 2003, at 5:24 AM, David Ayers wrote:

John Davidorff Pell wrote:

We're going no where fast.

Very true.  Maybe you would like to contribute?

Isn't it a bit inconsistent insisting on using the Apple Runtime but GNUstep core?. The Runtimes are incompatible. GNUstep and Cocoa are incompatible. Though you can write code to work with both *if* you're prepared to make sure that you're using a common subset and/or adequate mappings.

It will take proficient Cocoa/Darwin developers to deal with incompatibilities. Andrew has already offered to help on getting the GNU runtime to compile on Darwin (and I think his approach is aimed at being more user friendly than my approach (which tries not to hide any of the complications)). So this is a matter of time.

If it is important for you that GNUstep core works with the Apple runtime, then please contribute or request for a proposal if you're actually prepared to invest money in it. I'm sure there are enough folks who will respond. Note that you will probably end up with a patched Apple Runtime, but maybe you could even submit those patches to Apple, and with some luck... you never know...

Cheers,
David

PS: Having said that, it would be nice if OS X users could pinpoint the real issues of why GNUstep-base doesn't work with the Apple Runtime and track them on savannah (once she's back online), even if the issues can't be solved in GNUstep alone and are there for no bugs of GNUstep per se.

PPS: FYI I'm locally reworking GSObjCAddClassBehavior as it was believed to cause a problem with the Apple Runtime. I'll have someone with OS X test it once it's ready, but I haven't found any real issues in the old implementation. It was a bit ackward when applied to the Apple runtime, but that's all. My local implementation is more "symetric" (i.e. should be easier to maintain) but it is tiny bit less efficient for the GNU runtime than the current implementation. But I'm sure it's not issue here.






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