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Re: spatial finder


From: Rogelio Serrano
Subject: Re: spatial finder
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:35:57 +0800

On 2004-06-16 18:29:12 +0800 Frederico Muñoz <fsmunoz@gesal.org> wrote:

> On 2004-06-16 11:09:07 +0100 Rogelio Serrano <rogelio@smsglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2004-06-16 17:58:04 +0800 Nicolas Roard <nicolas@roard.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 16 juin 04, à 10:48, Enrico Sersale a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> On 2004-06-16 05:44:34 +0300 Rogelio Serrano <rogelio@smsglobal.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Can we use the new gworkspace finder in spatial mode?
>>>> 
>>>> What's that???
>>> 
>>> my .02€:
>>> 
>>> Something that works great with few files and shallow directories, and 
>>> badly with plenty of files and deep directories. Eg, it's not that good 
>>> for today computer's use.
>>> 
>>> You just need to see the users response to the now by-default nautilus 
>>> spatial mode.
>>> 
>>> Workspace UI is much better suited to Unix use, imho.
>>> 
>> 
>> Im going to use berkeley db to store files or file paths and additional 
>> file attributes in a flat namespace and use a spatial finder. Im going to 
>> hide unix from the user.
> 
> Altough hiding the filesystem from the user helps the usability of a spatial 
> finder it is not dependent on one... GWorkspace can already do the same using 
> the same mechanisms that NeXTSTEP (and I suppose Mac OSX) used: hidden 
> directories and a new namespace. I'm looking right now at my finder window 
> and in the root I have /Local, /System, /Network, /User and /Volumes. Add to 
> this the icons for directories (.dir.tiff) and the underlying filesystem is 
> hidden from the user.
> 
> With this in mind I suppose that to make GWorkspace "spatial"  one would set 
> the default view to iconic and open a new dir in each clicked icon (and make 
> sure that the new window remebers its atributes). I'm with Nicolas on this 
> one however: I think that the default view of the Finder is more appropriate 
> to today use of a computer and fits better with the Stepish paradigm. Having 
> said that I don't see anything wrong in supporting alternate modes, as long 
> as they are not the default.
> 
> I must confess that I've red numerous articles about the spatial file 
> managers and I'm one of those that "still don't get it"... they always go on 
> and on on how it isn't only a matter of opening a new window for each opened 
> component and remebering the attributes of that window, but in the end that's 
> all I can actually see... all the talk about the folders being like objects, 
> etc, maes some sense, but in the end it boils down to "each click opens a new 
> window".
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Frederico Muñoz
> 
> 
> 

Not really. I dont want it to work that way.  There should be tile all windows 
button and a close all windows button. 

I organize my home dir in a shallow heirarchy as much as possible and im 
feeling the limit of using finder and gworkspace and find in the command line. 
I wish i could save the search somewhere so i can click on it instead of 
retyping the search string all over again. 

Well can we drop the term spatial finder and just talk about saving a search as 
an icon so i can click on the icon and a folder opens to show all items found?





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