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Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?
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Matt Austern |
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Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0? |
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Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:25:55 -0800 |
On Nov 18, 2004, at 5:38 PM, Helge Hess wrote:
On 19. Nov 2004, at 01:37 Uhr, Ziemowit Laski wrote:
Zem is asking me to design his frontend's data structures for him. I
don't have time to do that right now, and Zem hasn't done the design
work himself, so we're waiting.
Since Geoff has objected to every design proposal I made, then
naturally
I was (and am) expecting a constructive alternative.
So the situation seems to be that you have proposed designs which were
rejected by Geoff, probably because they were either considered
incomplete or unacceptable.
Obviously you can't expect an alternative from him (does he work for
you or Apple?), as he mentions he has the time to review stuff for
inclusion but not to propose designs.
The question for me is how we can resolve the situation to get
forward. Is there any other GCC maintainer besides Geoff who has the
authority to review your proposals for inclusion and to mediate
between you two?
In case a theoretical "other" also rejects your proposals, can we find
someone who can come up constructive alternatives people can agree on?
Or maybe Apple can consult (aka pay) Geoff to come up with a
"constructive alternative"?
Apple already pays Geoff. Zem, Geoff, and I are all Apple employees.
This discussion should probably happen offline. It's in Apple's
interest for ObjC++ to get into mainline. It's also in Apple's
interest to make sure that there aren't any changes that hurt compiler
performance. It's silly for this discussion to be happening on an
international email list when most of the people participating in it
have offices on the same floor of the same building.
--Matt
Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Mark Mitchell, 2004/11/17
Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Geoffrey Keating, 2004/11/18
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Gregory John Casamento, 2004/11/18
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Ziemowit Laski, 2004/11/18
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Rogelio Serrano, 2004/11/18
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Helge Hess, 2004/11/18
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Gregory John Casamento, 2004/11/18
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?,
Matt Austern <=
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Ziemowit Laski, 2004/11/19
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Phil Edwards, 2004/11/19
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Chuck Robey, 2004/11/21
- Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Phil Edwards, 2004/11/22
Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Dale Johannesen, 2004/11/19
Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Dan Grillo, 2004/11/19
Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0?, Richard Kenner, 2004/11/19