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Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps
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Enrico Sersale |
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Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps |
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Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:44:27 +0200 |
On 2004-11-19 15:42:02 +0200 Riccardo <multix@ngi.it> wrote:
Hello, enrico,.
Quick reply :)
On Friday, November 19, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Enrico Sersale wrote:
On 2004-11-19 11:50:40 +0200 Riccardo <multix@ngi.it> wrote:
<snip>
GWorkspace is so buggy I hope that at some point Enrico wills top adding
features, stabilize what it is, make configure work to disable ddb and
make it build cleanly.
<snip>
Which kind of problems are you encountering, exactly? Besides the ddbd part
- that must be considered only "work in progress" - the rest of the app
should be very stable (I mean the current CVS).
apart from ddb which I had to disable by commenting out code? :)
The problems are related to moving the files to teh trash and Operations.
The first attempt (I never run gworkspace on this box before) it complained
that .Trash didn't exist. I needed to create manually the "Desktop" directory
and .Trash was created. Intermediate directories in the path were not
created. This may be a problem of gworkspace and how you handle this or maybe
of the function call you use! I don't know. Once done this I experience that
the Operations helper "freezes" or stops working when I give it to move
stuff. It can lock up so much that it has a white menu (not refreshed, only
the boundary box) and the icon in the dock becomes grey. Often manually
killing and repeating the operation works... SO it is not easily repeatable..
Also I would prefer that at the closure of gworkspace all helpers were closed
at the quitting of gworkspace (well, I would be happy if you would remove
some of those helpers totally...)
I want to reply to this point because it seems that many people don't like the
actual solution.
There are (and there will be) two main applications, GWorkspace and Desktop.
In the future, Desktop will be integrated in the window manager and this means
that it will use X stuff directly, not allowing anymore any kind of unification
with GW.
Last week I've made some experiments with WindowMaker and I've got it to work
as a GNUstep application (the X events are intercepted by the run loop of the
app and then passed to the Window Maker function); after this I've tried to add
to WMaker.app part of the sources of Desktop and I've got the Desktop window
and the Dock (my dock) on all the WindowMaker workspaces. So, I think that this
is the right way to go (using WindowManager or something else).
In this perspective, the existence of all the helper apps is easy
understandable:
both the apps needs file operations.
both the apps needs an Inspector.
both the apps needs a Finder and will use its File Annotations and Live Search
Folders.
both the apps use fswatcher, thumbnailer, etc...
for the rest as I told in IRC today I was pretty pleased by the total
appearance of the desktop. This is the first time I have a fully working and
2d accelerated X on NetBSD with my Matrox card and once a few apps are
launched and wmaker is set OK.. I can feel at home almost :)
So even if I complain about nasty bugs I take the moment to thank all who
worked up to this point! I only think we should do a feature freeze and try
to take out to stability what we have here now. And release it to the world.
-R
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- the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Riccardo, 2004/11/19
- Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Enrico Sersale, 2004/11/19
- Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Riccardo, 2004/11/19
- Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Nicolas Roard, 2004/11/19
- Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Enrico Sersale, 2004/11/19
- Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Nicolas Roard, 2004/11/20
- Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Enrico Sersale, 2004/11/21
Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Alexander Malmberg, 2004/11/21
Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps, Matt Rice, 2004/11/22