Re: Live CD and others general GNUstep remarks

[Gregory John Casamento]

--- Richard Frith-Macdonald <richard@brainstorm.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> On 9 Feb 2005, at 00:49, Gregory John Casamento wrote:
> 
> > There also should be code added to NSWindow which prevents an app from
> > positioning a window outside of the existing screen and this is a 
> > modification,
> > if it's not already in NSWindow, I'll add it.
> 
> Not so simple ... some code will temporarily place a windows outside 
> the screen to hide it, also you may well want it partially off screen 
> ... so you need to be careful not to interfere with these odd cases.
> I think rather, we could do with some sort of hint system in gorm files 
> which would reposition windows when the files are unarchived if 
> necessary.
> Perhaps this is what you meant though.

That is what I meant. :)   I believe that the dynamic placement should only
come into play right when the window is unarchived.  After that developer
should be free to put it whereever he/she likes.
 
> > In case you need further proof..  to demonstrate the preceeding to 
> > yourself,
> > start a project under MOSX Cocoa and use IB and set the position of 
> > the new
> > app's window.   Then build the app and watch that the window shows up 
> > exactly
> > where it was positioned in IB.  Additionally, if you go to the 
> > NSWindow size
> > inspector in IB, you will see the width, height, x, and y information 
> > for the
> > window in addition to the "Auto position" portion which I just 
> > described.   So,
> > this is not a case of information being encoded "by accident". :)
> 
> Sounds like they took the right approach ... I don't think it involves 
> an NSWindow change
> though.

Yep, I know.   I'm looking into how to do it in GNUstep.

> >>> Another related problem (not specific to the live cd) is that apps 
> >>> save
> >>> their windows position in the defaults
> >>> database -- that's good, but there's a slight problem: If the user
> >>> change resolution to a lower one...
> >>> One solution, perhaps, would be to associate the positions with the
> >>> actual resolution -- so you'd save the positions
> >>> for each resolution...
> >>>
> >
> > Again, there should be code which reconciles the screen size with 
> > where the
> > windows are placed, as above. :)
> 
> The way this *should* work is for the gui (NSWindow) to save window 
> positions in
> screen dependent defaults ... so when restoring a window the last 
> location stored for
> the screen size currently in use is the one used to position it.
> I thought this was the way the gui did things already, but perhaps it's 
> just that it has
> been discussed before.

I'm not sure if it does this currently either.

GJC

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Gregory John Casamento 
-- CEO/President Open Logic Corp. (A MD Corp.)
## Maintainer of Gorm (IB Equiv.) for GNUstep.