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Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

From: Gregory John Casamento
Subject: Re: These NeXTbuntu guys
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:30:56 -0700 (PDT)

I actually already did:


I just updated it a few minutes ago with a couple of the things you suggested.
Gregory John Casamento

----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Sveikauskas <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:22:58 PM
Subject: Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

I hope that this does not seem like a waste of time to others, but, I
think someone should wrote a really solid "open letter" to this guy to
let him and others know that he's mistaken, to get the good word out
about GNUstep.

The first glaring points that come to mind is:

1. Misunderstanding Ubuntu
Ubuntu didn't write Gnome, nautilus, dpkg, CUPS, samba, or any other
of the thousands of packages it pulls together, from scratch.  They
drew on the work of others, making enhancements, writing scripts, etc.
  This guy doesn't seem to understand that.  He writes that GNUstep is
"not mainstream"; well, if he really feels that's the case he should
work on getting it there, as the Ubuntu people did for Gnome, a
project long accused of never being mainstream.

2. The 'NS' issue
Obviously everyone on this list knows that 'GS' classes/functions
should be considered sort of "private", and that applications that use
them directly are generally being sketchy.  Point out that this is in
fact _better_ for Mac compatibility, as let's say GNUstep introduces
class NSFoo, then Apple introduces their own distinct NSFoo later, and
that means breakage.  GSFoo would save us from that.

3. Horzontal menus
Point out "defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSMenuInterfaceStyle
NSMacintoshInterfaceStyle", maybe conceed that it could use a
convenient GUI in some as-of-yet-unwritten desktop environment.

4. Cocoa compatibility
Point out that it's a large goal, highlight NIB work, etc.

5. Difference between dev tools and desktop
Maybe conceed that it would be nice if more people worked on an
integrated desktop solution based on GNUstep, invite and welcome
people that wish to do this, etc.

Just some thoughts on what I'd write, were I to counter this guy.  I
think it might be a good idea.  A lot of you seem to think it's better
just to ignore him.


On 2006-08-27 01:50:01 -0400 Gregory John Casamento
<address@hidden> wrote:

> http://nextbuntu.wordpress.com/
> Boy, this guy is a riot.  Did you see his latest?
> Later, GJC
> --
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