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Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]


From: Gregory John Casamento
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:08:31 -0700 (PDT)

Phil,

phil taylor <address@hidden>:
> If they cant bother to spend a couple of hours to knock up some sample
> programs, or build a few packages for the major distros (that arent four
> years out of date) what kind of message does that send to new users
> about the platform and the developers of it?
>
> I know the message it send to me - go somewhere else.

In the Gorm release, since about 0.5.0 (most current release is 1.1) there are 
examples in the Documentation directory.  They are covered in the Gorm manual 
which is also in that directory.
 
address@hidden Examples]$ ls
Controller  SimpleApp
address@hidden Examples]$ pwd
/home/heron/Releases/gorm-1.1.0/Documentation/Examples
address@hidden Examples]$ 

There are your simple examples.   They've been there for a quite a while.

Later, GJC

--Gregory John Casamento

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Subject: Re: really attracting developers
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On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 11:12 +0800, Rogelio Serrano wrote:
> On 9/4/06, phil taylor <address@hidden> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 14:58 +0200, address@hidden wrote:

> 
> gnustep is supposed to be a development platform not a desktop. i take
> that as saying that you use native tools to configure the plaform. for
> me on debian that means lots of xterm windows alongside gnumail and
> gworkspace. i wonder where nextstep consistency went.
> 

Of course I am commenting on it from a developers perspective. What use
would sample program code be to an end user?

Go download Freebasic (from www.freebasic.org) and install it. You get a
"samples" directory with numerous programs dealing with all aspects for
application creation, e.g. using GTK, OpenGL, mail, file io, etc, in
addition to the documentation.

For a software developer there is no substitute for hands on access to
actual program code to get you up to speed on a new language.

Why cant a GNUstep developer create even a simple "hello world" program
and stick it in a "samples" directory. That might encourage new users to
give the platform a look. I know it would work for me.

Aside from the benefit of the code itself, the absence of code speaks
volumes about how anxious the developers are to get new people on board.
If they cant bother to spend a couple of hours to knock up some sample
programs, or build a few packages for the major distros (that arent four
years out of date) what kind of message does that send to new users
about the platform and the developers of it?

I know the message it send to me - go somewhere else.


> >
> 
> next year maybe...
> 

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