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Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]

From: Adam Fedor
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:35:13 -0600

It already is released:

http://wwwmain.gnustep.org/experience/examples.html (From the 'Applications' link on the main page)

links to


been there for about 2 years...

On Sep 3, 2006, at 11:25 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote:


There is also an "examples" directory in the repository under usr-apps available in the SVN repository.

We should probably start releasing it in a separate examples tarball to illustrate some of these things.

Later, GJC

--Gregory John Casamento

----- Original Message ----
From: phil taylor <address@hidden>
To: Gregory John Casamento <address@hidden>
Cc: GNUstep Discussion <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2006 12:37:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]

On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 21:08 -0700, Gregory John Casamento wrote:

phil taylor <address@hidden>:
If they cant bother to spend a couple of hours to knock up some sample programs, or build a few packages for the major distros (that arent four
years out of date) what kind of message does that send to new users
about the platform and the developers of it?

I know the message it send to me - go somewhere else.

In the Gorm release, since about 0.5.0 (most current release is 1.1) there are examples in the Documentation directory. They are covered in the Gorm manual which is also in that directory.

address@hidden Examples]$ ls
Controller  SimpleApp
address@hidden Examples]$ pwd
address@hidden Examples]$

There are your simple examples. They've been there for a quite a while.

Later, GJC

And what if you dont know about Gorm or have decided not to use it? You
might well want to try building a simple console app before a GUI one,
or might want to build the GUI one by hand so as to get the feel of the
code, rather than have it generated?

I think the sample code should be included in the base development
install, or perhaps with every dev tool?

I also think the web site could do much better to highlight these
resources. How about a "developers intro page, with sample code actually
on the web?

I can find lots of other stuff on the site, but its the things that are
essential for a first time user are not easy to find. And its the first
time users who do not know either the software or the site that need
these things. Experienced users have found the resources for themselves.

This is the usual situation with open source projects - the info is all
there, but you have to either be very lucky to stumble on it quickly, or
spend months looking for a needle in a haystack.

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