RE: Was GNUstep ready for GNUstep ?

[Nicola Pero]

Thanks Yves ... a few comments:

 0. yes, you should upgrade! :-)

 1. if you find something that is not ready for gnustep-make 2.x, fix it and 
submit patches to the authors ;-)

 2. if you find anything that is not ready on the GNUstep repository, send me 
the patches (or just the bug report) and I'll fix the makefiles and commit the 
changes myself

 3. if you can't fix an external software, I'll fix it for you.  Just send me 
the code / a link to the code :-)

 4. I actually already submitted patches upgrading their makefiles (in a 
backwards-compatible way) to a few external projects (I tested gnustep-make 2.x 
on a variety of random GNUstep projects I downloaded from the internet), but 
I'm not sure the changes were ever incorporated as I don't think I got any reply

Finally, ProjectCenter is particularly difficult because it's not just a matter
of compiling the program, but the program itself is creating/maintaining 
makefiles.
I guess I'll slowly update/fix it as reports come in.

Thanks

PS: And upgrading to gnustep-make 2.x can't harm too much because it you use it 
in the same way as you used gnustep-make 1.x, everything (well, almost) should 
work the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Yves de Champlain <yves@gnu-darwin.org>
Sent: Sat, April 28, 2007 7:03 pm
To: GNUstep Discuss-gnustep <discuss-gnustep@gnu.org>
Subject: Was GNUstep ready for GNUstep ?

Hi

After upgrading to make-2.0, I find many many many packages now just  
break at compile (I'm not tlaking about my personnal issue with  
back-0.12).

Is it too early to upgrade ?  Like it is for Vista ? (oh boy, that  
was mean ...)

I'm provoking a bit, but it would have been darn simple if every  
developer had taken a __few_minutes__ to fix his own stuff.

- Many packages still die trying if GNUstep.sh was not sourced
- Some try to link with Framework/Version/A
- Some have GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DIR all over the place

I mean, why doesn't anybody care ?  I find make-2.0 very a good step  
(not joking), but even ProjectCenter, a core GNUstep app is not "2.0- 
ready".

Ok, I admit, I had a rough day yesterday ... and I always say coding  
is better than yelling, but every now and then, the great discussion  
of "The Future of GNUstep"(TM) comes along on this list, what else  
can I say ... I feel like it will be many months before I can upgrade  
gnustep-core without patching 20 or so other packages.  Bleak future  
if you ask.

yves



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