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Re: European GNUstep Developer's Meeting


From: Sašo Kiselkov
Subject: Re: European GNUstep Developer's Meeting
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 22:54:44 +0200
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Hi

I'd definitely like to be there, as I missed FOSDEM this year - stupid
flights...

- --
Saso

Riccardo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> On 2007-05-07 11:07:14 +0200 "hns@computer.org" <hns@computer.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think that I remember that during FOSDEM 2007 there came up the idea
>> to have a separate Developer's meeting between the FOSDEM events. And
>> it should be a GNUstep only meeting, so that we have enough time and
>> no conflicting talks/topics to discuss. I also remember that there was
>> a proposal for a Swiss Chalet to meet :-)
> 
> well, long time ago (2 years?) I had the AlpenStep proposal...
> Switzerland was planned back then because Guerkan couldn't enter the
> Schengen Area. Something near Lugano could have suited me, because I
> could arrive there by motorbike in a reasonable time, so not to add
> airplane costs.
> 
>> I think we already have a lot of interesting topics to dicuss:
>>
>> * how to make/plan/verify new releases
>> * news on Cairo backend
>> * SimpleWebKit status, issues, missing parts in GNUstep Base and GUI
>> * Etoile
>> * how to attract new developers and users?
>> * organization for FOSDEM 2008 + participation in other OSS / Linux
>> events?
>> * how to handle ObjC-2.0 and new features of OS X 10.5?
> 
> You left out GAP !!!! I feel terribly offended. Generally I'd pull out
> the question of Applications (both user-level as well as developer-level).
> I want to discuss windows stuff too...
> 
>> What we need:
>>
>> a) enough GSParticipants
> I'd appreciate some NSCoreDevelopers. I understand that NSAdam or
> NSGregory are far away, but the presence of NSNicolaPero or NSRichardFM
> would be quite interesting, especially regarding  the release cycle,
> objc 2.0 and the "missing parts"
> GSFredKiefer and GSAlexMalmberg would be good for the backend talk.
> 
>> b) a rough GSAgenda - formed  by proposals for Team Decisions and
>> Status Presentations about Subprojects
> There is so much to talk about we need a GSPreMeeting to make the
> GSAgenda :)
> 
>> c) a nice, central GSLocation with conference room, flipchart and a
>> beamer, great food, but affordable to everybody
> Switzerland suits the location for me, but it is not the cheapest place
> in the world, although if some insider gives you a tip you can get away
> with it. A place with at least some kind of internet connection (at
> least a modem) would be very handy I guess.
> 
>> d) a GSTimeInterval (I would assume that a weekend would be preferred
>> by the majority)
> Yes. At the cost of taking a day off before or after, it would give
> maximum flexibility.
> 
>>     e.g. something like Sat 15:00 - Sun 15:00, so that you can come
>> earlier or depart later if interested to do e.g. hiking
> also leave out some time for talking about stuff off GSAgenda, I guess
> some "subgroups" of similarly minded people could form (I think I'd like
> to talk to core people, to GAP people and to Nikolaus.. other might want
> to meet Etoile, etc)
> 
>> e) GSSponsor(s) to support those with small budget
> that would be too nice to be true :)
> 
>> and ... we will have a lot of GSFun
> 
> some kind of GSHack instead of GSHike could be nice too.
> 
>> I can volunteer to organize b)
>>
>> For d) I suggest a timeframe before End of July (vacation time) or
>> beginning with September:
> 
> Sept suits me: begins to be off-season and yet not rainy enough :)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Riccardo
> 
> 
> 
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