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Re: No FOSDEM 2008 stand/devroom this year: new Plans for GNUstep-Dev-Me

From: o Kiselkov <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: No FOSDEM 2008 stand/devroom this year: new Plans for GNUstep-Dev-Meeting & How to attract General Public?
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:40:19 +0100
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Well, as for me, I certainly do plan to do my part by coding more
software for development and every day use. I will continue PM
development (and finally rename it to something sensible).

And in the mean time - please feel free to publish the following in the
GNUstep success stories:


NetMage is a client-server system developed completely in GNUstep and
Objective-C and running on GNU/Linux and other flavors of *nix. It is
used internally by the companies NETLAB and GTS Nextra for collective
monitoring and administering of long-range synchronous radio
telecommunications links.

Some screenshots:

1. NetMage with the login screen visible and a list of available
synchronous networks to connect to:

2. NetMage showing a network of radio links in a synchronous network:

3. NetMage showing the settings of a modular link multiplexer along with
a list of available interface cards:

Please consider the above screenshots licensed under the FDL - I provide
them in good faith for the endorsement of GNUstep, not for any profit
(we don't sell the above mentioned software anyways...).


Gregory John Casamento wrote:
> All,
> I'm extremely disappointed in this news.
> While I see it as a setback, I also see it as confirmation of what we 
> discussed earlier.  We really aren't marketing ourselves well and we 
> desperately need to change that, as we discussed these past few weeks.    Out 
> of every bad thing comes something good and the good that may come out of 
> this is that we shouldn't focus on a show at FOSDEM we should focus on (not 
> in order of priority):
> On the marketing side...
> ==================
> 1) Getting the website changed as we discussed.
> 2) Creating the official forums.
> 3) Updating documentation and examples so that they are current and 
> correspond with what GNUstep is today
> On the software side...
> =================
> 1) Making GNUstep easier to install  (RPMs, DEBs, etc)
> 2) Theming
> 3) Completing existing features.
> And all of the other things we've discussed recently.
> BTW, the meeting in Frankfurt sounds like a good idea.   I very much want to 
> be there this year.  I will get back to you on timing.
> Later, GJC
> --
> Gregory Casamento -- OLC, Inc 
> # GNUstep Chief Maintainer
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
> To: address@hidden
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 2:29:00 AM
> Subject: No FOSDEM 2008 stand/devroom this year: new Plans for  
> GNUstep-Dev-Meeting & How to attract General Public?
> Hi all,
> we just got the note that they have so many project requests at FOSDEM
> 2008 so that they had to decide between them. And, the decision is
> that we do not get a stand/devroom this time.
> So, the good side is that there is nothing ot organize :-)
> And everyone can decide her/himself to visit FOSDEM and is not obliged
> to man the stand.
> But in the recent discussion how to do better marketing for GNUstep
> and to attract new developers, this is a major setback. Where else can
> we easly have approx. 3000 people running around a GNUstep
> presentation?
> The other downside is that we had planned a Pre-FOSDEM Workshop (2
> days) so that all developers from all continents could meet, discuss,
> make plans for next phases etc. but still spend travel expenses only
> once.
> Since Brussels in February isn't the most easy location to get (cheap)
> accommodation for a larger group anyway, I want to propose that we
> shift the workshop in time and location to meet somewhere near
> Frankfurt (big Airbase Hub) after Easter time.
> Question to the prospective overseas visitors: which timing would be
> most convenient?
> And, when looking at the Google statistics (they estimate 45 active
> members on this list), the recent discussions and that I have seen
> here many (new) names of contributors, I am sure we can gain a lot of
> momentum - but we also must make this publically known. So, a good
> question will be how to involve and ttract the "general public" in
> such an event.
> Nikolaus
> PS: there will still be 15min Lightning Talks at FOSDEM where one can
> outline a project and ask for participants - I am heavily considering
> to use this opportunity for Simple WebKit, and there should be someone
> to talk about GNUstep
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